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Why Shouldn't Ted Cruz be President

carpro

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Wait a minute. Cruz is the right wing version of Obama. That's the point. The parallels are there to see. Inexperienced back bencher barely into first term in the Senate. No legislative accomplishments. No important committee assignments. Inflexible--my way or the highway. I would throw in that Cruz, like Obama, is arrogant and smug.

The OP is "Why Shouldn't Ted Cruz be President?", not "Can Ted Cruz be Worse than Obama?"

There are no signs yet that Cruz is either arrogant or smug. He may be, but you're way out front on that one. Just trying to reinforce your reasons, I suspect.

But mostly it sounds like what you're looking for is a republican that is barely to the right of Obama. You don't have to look far. They're everywhere.
 

blessedwife318

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To criticize him does not mean he is not eligible to run.,

That said, he is too far outside mainstream American thinking to be president. His stances, if adopted, would harm too many people.

At the risk of hijacking this tread, I think a lot of people said (I know I did and still believe that he is not "American" in the sense of knowing how most Americans think and feel about issues) the same thing about Obama being too far outside the mainstream America thinking to be president, so how exactly is Cruz any different?
 

Revmitchell

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Cruz is not the right wing version of Obama.

He is not nearly as far right as Obama is left.

Not even close.

That person doesn't exist. Obama is in a class by himself.

Not even close. I do not know if he would be a god President yet. He would be far better than any establishment candidate. I will never vote for Bush or anyone like him. We need someone who is conservative and in stark contrast to the DNC not one who is like them.
 

carpro

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He has no legislative record, or if he does, it's a record of "I blocked this", "I stopped this from happening". As President he's going to have to be able to compromise and get things through.

Are you saying the things he "stopped" or "blocked" shouldn't have been stopped or blocked?

Got some examples?
 

Rolfe

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At the risk of hijacking this tread, I think a lot of people said (I know I did and still believe that he is not "American" in the sense of knowing how most Americans think and feel about issues) the same thing about Obama being too far outside the mainstream America thinking to be president, so how exactly is Cruz any different?


His Canadian birth will be an issue too large to conquer. Were it only the Dems pointing his Canadianness out, that would be one thing. That Republicans are doing so indicates that he has more that the opposition party faithful to win over.
 

blessedwife318

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His Canadian birth will be an issue too large to conquer. Were it only the Dems pointing his Canadianness out, that would be one thing. That Republicans are doing so indicates that he has more that the opposition party faithful to win over.

I agree his Canadian birth is a problem, as I stated in another tread. I don't think he is going to get the nomination so this is all just speculation. I just want to know how someone that supports Obama can say with a straight face that Curz is to "unamerican" to run.
 

Rolfe

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It occurred to me that, by the Ted Cruz standard, I am eligible to be President of the United States. :laugh:
 

Doubting Thomas

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I don't know why he shouldn't be President. But I think he SHOULD be President if only to see the chicks on 'The View' go completely unhinged. :laugh:
 

InTheLight

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Are you saying the things he "stopped" or "blocked" shouldn't have been stopped or blocked?

Got some examples?

I can't really think of any, hence the phrase "Cruz's legislative record, if he has one.."

Well, he was the driving force behind the government shutdown in a bid to repeal ObamaCare. :laugh:

A President that is known for blocking things is probably not going to be thought of as a good President.
 

church mouse guy

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I agree his Canadian birth is a problem, as I stated in another tread. I don't think he is going to get the nomination so this is all just speculation. I just want to know how someone that supports Obama can say with a straight face that Curz is to "unamerican" to run.

You lost me on this point. Barry Goldwater was not born in the USA but I don't remember it being an issue in 1964 since Goldwater was born of American parents in the Arizona Territory. McCain was born in Panama, as we all know, so I don't think that legally this is an issue at all. Cruz was born an American citizen legally.

Here is what the US constitution says:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
 

Rolfe

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My own opinion is that Scott Walker will win the nomination. As someone from Wisconsin, I have mixed feelings about it. He has done enough good for this state that I would hate to see him leave.
 

Rolfe

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Here is what the US constitution says:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Define Natural Born.
 

Revmitchell

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His having been born in Canada is at this point a non issue. Even Democrats are saying he is qualified.
 

church mouse guy

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Define Natural Born.

Oh, I used to work around a lot of lawyers in downtown Indianapolis and I know what you are asking as I heard hours of talk on that subject so I think that you should define what the Constitution means by that term, not me. :type:
 

Rolfe

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Oh, I used to work around a lot of lawyers in downtown Indianapolis and I know what you are asking as I heard hours of talk on that subject so I think that you should define what the Constitution means by that term, not me. :type:

In other words, you cannot.
 
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