Why so many unfounded attacks on Calvinism?

[gb93433]

Go ahead and tell us.

An honest answer to post #198.

 

[Rippon]

An honest answer to post #198.

Just go and read your many posts on this thread to find the answer to your question gb (Joe).Of course that would require you to be looking with eyes of discernment.

Aw,we're on page 21 already.

 

[Jarthur001]

You obviously do care from post #79, "“Married for over 30 years. We have 3 girls all with degrees from Bible College. All are in full time Christian work. My son-in-law is a pastor, I too am a pastor/church planter.”

Not sure what your getting at here, other than just to disagree. But I will stick with my statement. I really don't care if you call me a Calvinist of not.

Any Presbyterians around?

??? the point? Who cares?

Christians follow Christ
Calvinists follow_____________.

Do you not see your REAL heart???
You claim to be this God honoring unifier of the Church.

I SAY....I could care less what you call me...and YOU want to argue about it.
I SAY... that one thing that does matter, and that you can't seem to get in your head is, the fact that no Calvinist follows John Calvin.

And on the very next post.....

What do YOU do??

At you mad at life??

 

[Jarthur001]

We're on the 20th page of this thread.And true to form, many unfounded attacks on Calvinism are plainly in view,sad to say.

It would be a mercy for a mod to shut this thing down.

I agree.

The links prove the point.

Some...not all...but some post also prove it.

Cast closed....sealed....shut-r-down

 

[psalms109:31]

All men to be saved

God wanting all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth and Jesus drawing all men to Himself is a call to go out and reach the world because it doesn't take away from what Romans 10 tells us and with this attitude, even though men are stubburn and hard headed this is the attitude that we should go out with.

2 Corinthians 5:16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21God made him who had no sin to be sin[Or be a sin offering ] for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

We who are called by God through Jesus know what message Christ sent us out with and that is the message we should go out with.

 

[webdog]

Since this thread was started out of fear...it should be shut down.

 

[Spinach]

I read the first two pages and the last because I haven't the time to finish. Supper won't prepare itself. LOL!

I just want to say that if Calvinists think they're in the minority, I'd like to introduce myself.

I belive in predestination and free will. One is for the Jew and one is for the Gentile.

Now that is a minority belief.

 

[Pipedude]

Go ahead and tell us.

I figured you'd already know what I'm about to say . . .

Rather than just putting this thread out of its misery, why not lay the axe at the root and quarantine the whole topic? Give Calvinism its own forum, make it private, and ban the topic everywhere else.

Some of you equate Calvinism with the gospel and imply that the rest of us don't believe or preach the gospel. You consider Calvinism to be the only honest understanding of Scripture and, therefore, the rest of us are either knaves or fools. And just like a fisherman who lives for the time when he can get to the water and wet a hook, I'm convinced that you have no greater joy than to start a thread that will lure your brothers into a fight--all for the SDG, of course.

Let's just clean the problem out, fumigate the BB, and be at peace among ourselves.

 

[drfuss]

I read the first two pages and the last because I haven't the time to finish. Supper won't prepare itself. LOL!

I just want to say that if Calvinists think they're in the minority, I'd like to introduce myself.

I belive in predestination and free will. One is for the Jew and one is for the Gentile.

Now that is a minority belief.

drfuss: I assume you mean the predestination part is for the Jews and the free will part is for the Gentiles. This is the first I have run across this different belief. As a believer in The Doctrines of Salvation, I will have to think about that.

 

[MB]

To grant mercy would be a compromise. Personally I can not compromise with something that has proven it self false.
MB

 

[webdog]

I read the first two pages and the last because I haven't the time to finish. Supper won't prepare itself. LOL!

I just want to say that if Calvinists think they're in the minority, I'd like to introduce myself.

I belive in predestination and free will. One is for the Jew and one is for the Gentile.

Now that is a minority belief.

What Scripture do you base your belief on? This might make for it's own interesting thread...care to start it?

 

[Jarthur001]

To grant mercy would be a compromise. Personally I can not compromise with something that has proven it self false.
MB

Yet another case in point of the OP..

Again we see more blanket statements....with no proof.

 

[Jarthur001]

drfuss: I assume you mean the predestination part is for the Jews and the free will part is for the Gentiles. This is the first I have run across this different belief. As a believer in The Doctrines of Salvation, I will have to think about that.

Its called the election of groups. At one time web use to believe this too. I have no idea if this is still the case. Or at least you would say.."Elect is only used toward the Jews". But I have not seen him say that for a while.

Many reason this is not the case.

One...

this view removes all the blessings given to the elect in Eph 1...and other places.

two..
There are to many passages that tell the church is the elect.

Its bad theology

 

[Jarthur001]

What Scripture do you base your belief on? This might make for it's own interesting thread...care to start it?

Yes...please start one. This one will be a easy one.

In fact...i'll not wait. I'll start one now.

 

[DHK]

There seems to be a general consensus that this thread needs to be closed.
So done.