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Why would Paul tell Christians not to do sins they are incapable of doing?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by IfbReformer, Feb 23, 2007.

  1. Brother Bob

    Brother Bob New Member

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    The Lord took away that heart and give me a heart of flesh. He will give one to whosoever believes that He is the Christ the Son of the Living God.
     
  2. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    You quoted me where I said
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    When God convicts me of a sin, I do not hold on to that sin as some may.
    You twisted my word 'some' to say 'you' somehow in your reply to me. I have not contradicted myself anywhere.

    Try again.
     
  3. Shiloh

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    I do not appreciate your false accusations. You live nowhere near me and do not know me in person and it is wrong of you to accuse me of lying. ........oh! But I bet I do!:wavey:I even know where you live!:thumbs:



     
  4. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    Ok, Shiloh...

    Where do I live?
     
  5. Shiloh

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    :laugh: Some people would call you a river rat, but not me I think that only goes for the people that live close to the power plant.:wavey: Wouldn't it be something if we were in the same church!:rolleyes:
     
  6. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    Sorry Shiloh,

    No power plants near here and I am quite sure we are nowhere close to where you are.

    Never heard the term 'river rat' in my neck of the woods either.
     
  7. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    You anywhere near the York Bridge off of RD 4? in Holtwood?
     
  8. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    If ya know me and where I live, come on out to McKelvey Lane (I've narrowed it down for ya). Will keep a light on and we can discuss the Word like Brethren... sensibly and with respect.
     
  9. Rex77

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    Well I think all of us that were saved when we were 10 years old .
    have committed nearly all our sin after we were saved .
    And whats more we have committed a lot more new ones that we did not committ before we were saved.

    Praise God they are all under the blood.
     
  10. EdSutton

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    DHK, you misquoted Jon-Marc, in his quote. What he said was, himself quoting his dean,
    However, you have him as saying -
    There is a huge difference between what he actually said, and what you purport him to say. Just have to set the record straight, here. And I agree with Jon-Marc in what he said. I also fully agree that what you reported JM to say would be "Illogical!", as Spock would say, if that were what he said. And by your emphasis, you make it sound certain that not only can a Christian do some particular sin, but that he or she MUST do such.

    However, it was not what he said and I think you also missed the intent of the connective "That", as well. Please acknowledge that you misread J-M, in this. I do not think you and he actually disagree, and I know that I basically agree wiith you, as well as J-M.

    Ed
     
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    Ya know, I bet if we all did meet in person, a lot of miscommunications would disappear, and probably we all believe closer than appears on here.
    :wavey:
     
  12. EdSutton

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    "His Blood", you have made the statement that you 'stole', before you were saved. OK If that does fit you (and you are the one who made the admission) or any other believer, why would the Holy Spirit have Paul have to write these words in Ephesians?
    BTW, and FTR, these words are in the 'imperative mood', in the Greek, meaning that it is a command, even though the English language has no possible way to show a command in the "third person', with "let", as here, being the closest possible way, unfortuantely.

    While obviously and logically, you or I, should we happen to be a thief, could not steal the exact same thing twice, but we could still steal something of like effect, or a similar object.
    And it would still be stealing.

    Actually, and I'm not bragging, here, I'd suggest I'm one of the few individuals on the BB that could not possibly "steal from my employer", with less than 100% effort in what I do, merely because I have been self-employed for basically all my adult life, or done things on "piece-work" commission and basis, as a 'self-employed contractor', and cannot possibly steal from myself. But I cannot say, I have always exerted 100% effort and diligence in every single thing that I do, so were I employed by someone else, that might still be the case. Think about it. That is why we have these Scriptural admonitions.

    Aslo, FTR, as shiloh asked, What does Jesus 'opening and shutting' in Rev. 3:7 have to do with the subject, at hand? I do have some "grasp on this", and it has absolutely no reference to whether or not, one is capable of any particular sin.

    Ed
     
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  13. Shiloh

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    You anywhere near the York Bridge off of RD 4? in Holtwood? NOPE......I'm not coming to see you because I am too far away but I do know where you are!
     
  14. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    Ed,

    Just as man is not able to open that which Christ closes, man cannot continue stealing if Christ has taken it away as His Word says has happened.
     
  15. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    If you say you was convicted of stealing, and you steal something else, you were not convicted at all.

    To be convicted means to be convinced that something is a sin to you. If you are truly convicted, you are not going to continue in that which you are convicted of.
     
  16. Brother Bob

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    What is this, some kind of threat or having a cook out??
     
  17. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    LOL, Bob.

    No, no threat. I am a very passive person. Not a violent bone in my body. Anyone who knows me as Shiloh claims he knows me would know I am far from violent.
     
  18. Brother Bob

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    Ed; Is the group in Eph. 4: the same as the group below in Eph. 2:???

    Eph. 2:

    1: And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
    2: Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
    3: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
    4: But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
    5: Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
    6: And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
    7: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
    8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
     
  19. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    Tim, next time I am in W.Va area, would like to meet you. If yer ever in Holtwood, look me up.
     
  20. Brother Bob

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    Not talking about you, It was not you who said "I know where you live".
     
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