Why would Paul tell Christians not to do sins they are incapable of doing?

I may be mistaken, but did not take Shiloh's statement as a threat. But even if it were a threat, he could not hurt me if it were not allowed by the Lord.

And if he did hurt me, would that not prove that he was not of the body?

Now I know Paul spoke of the body in Corinth warring with each other, but I think it was in word only.

And I ain't afraid of words.

 

No, it could mean having a "cook out".

 

Let's hope that is what he meant as I have given him a street name.

 

Threat?raying: I just happen to know where he lives and goes to church.......and he doesn't get this (can't sin anymore) at his church.

 

Or a cook out, and he doesn't say we can't sin anymore.

 

Now I know you don't know me. LOL. I am the preacher.

 

I teach my people if they say they have been convicted of sin and continue in that sin, they better make a trip to the altar or listen more closely to the Word... or both!

Ed,

God is not going to convict someone of stealing a doughnut at the bakery and allow them to steal a bagel at the deli.

If God convicts of stealing, He will let you know what stealing is and put it in your heart not to take just one object that does not belong to you but all things that do not belong to you.

 

Strange! I have looked up this passage in question in over twenty versions, including some really bad versions. (I have to admit, I did not bother with the NWT, this time.) Not one version of Scripture (except "the Brother Bob version" ) adds the words "if we commit a sin which is not unto death" to I. Jn. 2:1. And this happens to be the only passage I found that speaks of an "Advocate" in the NKJV, the version I usually use.

The distinction of 'some sins being worse than others, so are not intended to be "advocated for" here' is not made in the Bible, here, so I suggest that it is "adding someone's own interpretation to the word of God"!

I suggest, rather, that even a "sin unto death" is 'advocated for', by the Lord Jesus Christ, in that our eternal salvation is not in question. But he can and does reserve the right to still "take you or me out", in our physical life, (and reserve us to the judgment at the 'bema') as other Scriptures tell us, and sometimes does. Let's not confuse and confute the two.

BTW, the Greek "...και εαν τις αμαρτη..." here in I John 2:1 carries into English, the force of "...But and if we sin...", due to the construction of "kai" and the subjunctive "eav" (ean). We should not sin, but unfortunately, we still do, and that is what I John is saying, here.

Ed.

 

John is saying we sin, I am not arguing that. But he is not saying we are committing the same sins as before we were convicted and confessed.

 

Show me where any of us have said we can justify any sin. You are cherry picking my posts and not bringing what I am responding to so it is completely out of context, so bring up the whole post and what I am referring to, or please stop cherry picking to try to justify your theory.

Found the post Ed, now it makes more sense.

 

I know I'm just a dumb farmer and layman, but ain't that the "same difference" as lying?

Ed

 

You seem to be doing better Ed. We will continue to pray for you.

Are you just picking on my posts or do you consider others as well playing your "dumb farmer role"?

I still waiting for an answer on #138

 

Agreed, but what does that have to do with the topic that is being "talked to death"?

Ed

 

Yes, you are correcy Ed, I did misquote Jon-Marc.
(My mistake was a typo).
Just the time we think that we are incapable of sinning, we will sin.
"When we think that we are incapable of commiting any sin, that is the time we WILL do it."

Those are his exact words.
I was going to disagree again, but upon reading it again, the more I read it; the more I agree with it. You are right. I missed the intent of what he was saying.
I apologize.

 

It comes from Catholicism Ed, just like they have mortal and venial sins. Do you know that we have Baptists on this board that believe in a "Baptist Purgatory?"
It is amazing the influence that Catholicism has had on some of our brethren.

 

Sure just send me a PM... I will have to look at a map to see how close Holtwood is....
I am only about an hour from Cumberland Md.


edit.... I looked up holtwood, and I am about 5 hours away.

 

Well, I guess the Catholics would be happy with you two saying that the word of God came from the Catholics.

Jhn 19:11Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power [at all] against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

1Jo 5:16If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. (why would you need an advocate)

1Jo 5:17All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

This is false, and not according to scripture.

wonder why it hasn't worked on some of us Christians.

 

Give me one good reason why one should listen to you, when for all the time and threads you have been on, you have failed to define "a sin unto death," and list the sins that would be "sins" unto death. The best analogy that I can come up with is that they are the mortal sins of the Catholic Church instead of the venial sins. Your belief parallels the RCC in that respect. I will continue to hold that belief unless you can show me from Scripture anything differently. It is a sorry situation when you can't explain your doctrine through the Bible. That is very much like the RCC's

 

Ed

 

Run that one by me again! I'm pretty sure God,"who cannot lie", does not remember our sins any more, but I have not found any Scripture that says we all have the same amnesia. In fact HBSMN, did you not give a list of about eight or ten sins or so (Only ten or so??? AMAZING!!!!) you claimed prior to being saved? Obviously you are remembering some that God doesn't.

Ed