BobRyan
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I am a Reformed Baptist, but I don't currently attend a Baptist church.
?? why not?
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I am a Reformed Baptist, but I don't currently attend a Baptist church.
Where is John citing from?:
Revelation 14:7 KJB - "... worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea ..."
Excellent, where did those places get it from? Where is the first place it is given?We find God by the Holy Spirit having that penned by His prophets several times. Neh 9:6, Ps 33:6, Ps 124:8, Ps 146, Acts 14:15 & 17:24.
Excellent, where did those places get it from? Where is the first place it is given?
Thank you for your time.It is given by God. If you have something to teach then get on with it.
Thank you for your time.
Excellent, where did those places get it from? Where is the first place it is given?
We find God by the Holy Spirit having that penned by His prophets several times. Neh 9:6, Ps 33:6, Ps 124:8, Ps 146, Acts 14:15 & 17:24.
All of them quoting the unique language of Ex 20:11 "11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy."
Not "sea earth and heaven" not "earth and heaven" but distinctly the heavens and the earth, the sea
As we see here - "God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all that is in them" Acts 14:15
By contrast you will find 'no quote' in the NT of "Do not take God's name in vain"
OK, all good stuff. So what is new? What is the non SDA missing?
1. They do not know what the mark of the beast is in Rev 13 and 14.
2. They do not know what the significance of Rev 15:8 is
3. They do not know why 1 Thess 4 keeps using the term "sleep"
4. Most do not know why Paul goes out of his way in Ephesians 6:2 to pull the Ten Commandments into the discussion
5. They can tell that Rev 14 is structured to give a final warning message to the world followed by the wrath of God and the "reaping" of the wicked and of the saints... but they cannot tell what it means.
Please, one step at a time, do not plaster the board with Scripture making several leaps at a time.
I like to think of my post as a "short summary"
Not "sea earth and heaven" not "earth and heaven" but distinctly the heavens and the earth, the sea
1. They do not know what the mark of the beast is in Rev 13 and 14.
2. They do not know what the significance of Rev 15:8 is
3. They do not know why 1 Thess 4 keeps using the term "sleep"
4. Most do not know why Paul goes out of his way in Ephesians 6:2 to pull the Ten Commandments into the discussion
5. They can tell that Rev 14 is structured to give a final warning message to the world followed by the wrath of God and the "reaping" of the wicked and of the saints... but they cannot tell what it means.
6. They do not know what Christ is doing as our High Priest in the Sanctuary of Heaven as it relates to the work of Christ depicted in Leviticus 16 on the "Day of Atonement" and how that relates to "Gospel Judgment" that we see in Romans 2:13-16 and in Rev 14:6-7
7. They do not know what the "Seal of God" is in Rev 7. They can see that it is a kind of end-times "Noah's Ark" of safety for the saints to survive the Rev 15:8 event but they don't know what it is.
Not sure why you find this some sort of distinction. and the reference to God creating the heavens and the earth precede it being repeated in Exodus. In fact God states it as "heavens and earth" in Gen 2:1 and as "earth and heavens" in Gen 2:4. Why do you find the order so relevant?
you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.Matthew 23:15 ...
That is a fun game to play but is not very helpful if discussing Bible details about a given doctrine.
You have a Bible right? Most Bibles indicate with upper case that the OT text is being quoted.
You knew - that we all knew that - right?
You still did not answer my question.