Why would someone

[Mike McKinney]

What lies? Please be specific and provide evidence.


No one is being forced to take the vaccine. And, no, an employer making vaccination a job requirement does not entail force any more than a job requirement that I become proficient in Microsoft Word forces me to learn Word - employers have the right to set terms of employment.


Misleading - what reputable source guaranteed you that you would not need a booster?

From your tone, I can tell you're just interested in trolling, so, no thanks.

 

[cooper_m22]

What lies? Please be specific and provide evidence.


No one is being forced to take the vaccine. And, no, an employer making vaccination a job requirement does not entail force any more than a job requirement that I become proficient in Microsoft Word forces me to learn Word - employers have the right to set terms of employment.


Misleading - what reputable source guaranteed you that you would not need a booster?

I have never posted on here, but I have to on this. What about the people that work at the IRS they’re being towed vaccinate or you’re fired. They do not have a choice


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[Andre]

From your tone, I can tell you're just interested in trolling, so, no thanks.

In other words, you cannot back up your statements. Got it.

 

[Andre]

I have never posted on here, but I have to on this. What about the people that work at the IRS they’re being towed vaccinate or you’re fired. They do not have a choice

They do, of course, have a choice - they are not being forced.

Yes, they will lose their job if they do not meet the terms of employment conferred by their employer. But that happens all the time: if my employer adds a requirement that I take a Microsoft Word course, and I refuse, does my employer not have the right to fire me?

 

[FollowTheWay]

Btw. You are going to get Covid. Like it or not

it has been engineered for it to be so

this is not a scare tactic. Just a fact

Covid is over 97% survivable

God is in control, and yes you can rest and take comfort in that

see the immediate comment above and read it again. Then read it again

heed the words of Jesus, He has overcome the World

More Americans have died of Covid that all American soldiers in every war since the Civil War. If you disregard Covid why not forget about memorizing every American soldier since the Civil War?

 

[Marooncat79]

More Americans have died of Covid that all American soldiers in every war since the Civil War. If you disregard Covid why not forget about memorizing every American soldier since the Civil War?

You are really straining at the gnat here

never said anything about dead soldiers

 

[Reformed1689]

Strawman - I never claimed otherwise. I was simply replying to the incorrect statement that the mRNA vaccines use new technology: such a claim greatly distorts the truth.

If the technology has never been used in a vaccine it is new technology. It may have been in development for decades but it is not used tested technology and therefore new.

 

[Reformed1689]

More Americans have died of Covid that all American soldiers in every war since the Civil War. If you disregard Covid why not forget about memorizing every American soldier since the Civil War?

If you believe the numbers..

 

[Reformed1689]

And, no, an employer making vaccination a job requirement does not entail force any more than a job requirement that I become proficient in Microsoft Word forces me to learn Word - employers have the right to set terms of employment.

The fact that you think those are comparable tells me all I need to know about you.

 

[Andre]

If the technology has never been used in a vaccine it is new technology. It may have been in development for decades but it is not used tested technology and therefore new.

No.

It is absurd to suggest a technology, such as mRNA, is new just because it has not been tested in a vaccine - the technology could be very advanced and it could have been tested in all sorts of other contexts than in a vaccine.

But even if the mRNA has not been tested at all, it is beyond obvious that this does not mean the technology is new. All it means is that it has not been tested - big difference. If I spend decades designing a rocket engine and only test it 20 years down the line, I am not testing new technology.

I am, of course, testing technology that has been under development for 20 years.

 

[Andre]

The fact that you think those are comparable tells me all I need to know about you.

Simple question: If your employer says you must wear a hardhat on a construction site, and fires you if you refuse, has the employer done anything wrong and, if so, what?

 

[canadyjd]

Simple question: If your employer says you must wear a hardhat on a construction site, and fires you if you refuse, has the employer done anything wrong and, if so, what?

If your employer grinds your hardhat to dust and demands your put it in a soda and drink it, has the employer done anything wrong?

The difference is something you wear, proven to offer some safety, and something you put into your body that reasonable people believe needs more information before they take it.

Peace to you

 

[Andre]

The difference is something you wear, proven to offer some safety, and something you put into your body that reasonable people believe needs more information before they take it.

Hardhats are proven to offer protection at very low risk.
Vaccines are proven to offer protection at very low risk (despite all the lying and distortion about this).

End of discussion.

 

[canadyjd]

Hardhats are proven to offer protection at very low risk.
Vaccines are proven to offer protection at very low risk (despite all the lying and distortion about this).

End of discussion.

You don’t get to determine when the discussion ends. The discussion will end when all the facts are known, the virus is no longer politicized, and people stop lying to the public.

If you can’t see the difference between wearing a hardhat and being injected with a vaccine that is literally still being evaluated, you really should “end” your part of this discussion.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

No.

It is absurd to suggest a technology, such as mRNA, is new just because it has not been tested in a vaccine - the technology could be very advanced and it could have been tested in all sorts of other contexts than in a vaccine.

But even if the mRNA has not been tested at all, it is beyond obvious that this does not mean the technology is new. All it means is that it has not been tested - big difference. If I spend decades designing a rocket engine and only test it 20 years down the line, I am not testing new technology.

I am, of course, testing technology that has been under development for 20 years.

It is new vaccine technology. Have some integrity man.

 

[Andre]

It is new vaccine technology.

You are playing word games. No one has denied that using mRNA in a vaccine is new. But the fundamental underlying science is not new

The science behind the new COVID-19 vaccines has not been rushed. In fact, these vaccines are building on decades of scientific research.

The story involves hundreds of people all over the world and highlights the importance of fundamental and applied research. Advancements in our understanding of messenger RNA (mRNA) and its potential for use in medicines, along with the creation of new technologies over the last 30 years, made these vaccines possible. Recent research on coronaviruses, in particular, made these vaccines effective.

 

[Andre]

Have some integrity man.

Do you mean the kind of integrity it takes to make this false, dangerous statement:

If the vaccine is so effective (it's not)

That kind of integrity?

 

[Reformed1689]

Do you mean the kind of integrity it takes to make this false, dangerous statement:


That kind of integrity?

I personally know lots of people vaccinated that have Covid. Obviously not effective.

 

[Reformed1689]

You are playing word games. No one has denied that using mRNA in a vaccine is new. But the fundamental underlying science is not new

The science behind the new COVID-19 vaccines has not been rushed. In fact, these vaccines are building on decades of scientific research.

The story involves hundreds of people all over the world and highlights the importance of fundamental and applied research. Advancements in our understanding of messenger RNA (mRNA) and its potential for use in medicines, along with the creation of new technologies over the last 30 years, made these vaccines possible. Recent research on coronaviruses, in particular, made these vaccines effective.

Only one playing word games is you.

 

[Andre]

I personally know lots of people vaccinated that have Covid. Obviously not effective.

Come on man, this is obviously not a valid line of argument. I know people who have smoked heavily for decades and never got lung cancer or any other lung problem.

Does this mean that smoking is not bad for you?

Anecdotes do not count. At least in a serious discussion.