Why?

[KenH]

Why do insist on asking silly questions? Have you not understood what I have posted?

Why can't you answer a simple question with a simple yes or no?

 

[KenH]

Note how you teach merited salvation. "Human ability saves" would be your mantra.

Yes, he is. It is very sad to see someone so deep in a false gospel. Having lived many decades of my life as a full-blown Pelagian, it is very sad to him in such a condition.

 

[AustinC]

You just keep denying the bible text. TD is not found in the bible, you have to read it into the text. Man has a God given free will you just refuse to see it. Does man sin, YES can they trust in Christ for salvation, YES. Why do you keep denying this? Your errant theology has blinded you to the truths that are in the bible.

All have sinned.
That's total corruption. No one born is uncorrupted by sin, save Jesus who was conceived by the Holy Spirit as fully human and fully God.
You and I and everyone else are born corrupted in every area of our nature. Not one part of our nature is free from the corruption of sin. That is what the Bible teaches and what total depravity means.

Why do you lift up humans as naturally holy, Silverhair?

 

[Silverhair]

Note how you teach merited salvation. "Human ability saves" would be your mantra.

God saves those that trust in His son. Have you not grasped that concept yet?
You are so blinded by your calvinism that you can not even read. Your man-made philosophy is your blind-spot. I have dealt with your false accusations a number of times already.
I can understand why you keep repeating your accusations as you really have nothing else to say as your view is indefensible and you know this.

 

[Silverhair]

Yes, he is. It is very sad to see someone so deep in a false gospel. Having lived many decades of my life as a full-blown Pelagian, it is very sad to him in such a condition.

Sorry you had to live as a Pelagian for so long, now you just need to start trusting the bible and not your man-made philosophy. You seem to have run from one end of the logic pool to the other.

 

[Silverhair]

All have sinned.
That's total corruption. No one born is uncorrupted by sin, save Jesus who was conceived by the Holy Spirit as fully human and fully God.
You and I and everyone else are born corrupted in every area of our nature. Not one part of our nature is free from the corruption of sin. That is what the Bible teaches and what total depravity means.

Why do you lift up humans as naturally holy, Silverhair?

All sin but you read TD into your view and fail to see what the bible says.

Rom_4:1-12 tells us Abraham was Justified by Faith
Rom_4:13-25 tells us The Promise is Realized Through Faith

 

[KenH]

Sorry you had to live as a Pelagian for so long, now you just need to start trusting the bible and not your man-made philosophy. You seem to have run from one end of the logic pool to the other.

You are in desperate need of shedding your free-will Arminianism.

 

[KenH]

@Silverhair Still waiting on your yes or no answer to my simple question:

The Bible is all about Christ and His perfect righteousness. All of it. Do you disagree?

 

[Silverhair]

You are in desperate need of shedding your free-will Arminianism.

Why would I want to, as you say, shed my free will? The option you want me to come over to is your errant Divine Determinism view, but that is not biblical so why would I do that?

By the way I just trust the bible, I don't like labels. Never even knew about C or A until about ten years ago.

 

[KenH]

All sin but you read TD into your view and fail to see what the bible says.

Rom_4:1-12 tells us Abraham was Justified by Faith
Rom_4:13-25 tells us The Promise is Realized Through Faith

And who do you think is the source of faith - God or man?

 

[KenH]

Why would I want to, as you say, shed my free will? The option you want me to come over to is your errant Divine Determinism view, but that is not biblical so why would I do that?

By the way I just trust the bible, I don't like labels. Never even knew about C or A until about ten years ago.

Just out of curiosity, why do you not capitalize the word, "Bible"?

 

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair Still waiting on your yes or no answer to my simple question:

The Bible is all about Christ and His perfect righteousness. All of it. Do you disagree?

Christ is the main subject of the bible but if you spend any time reading you will find many other things included in the text. So your wrong in in question. The main theme is forgiveness of sin through trust in God, we see that in both the OT & NT.

 

[Silverhair]

And who do you think is the source of faith - God or man?

God has given man the free will so that when they hear the gospel message they can believe or reject that message. So who do you think exercises faith?
The bible is clear that God saves those that believe, or do you not trust what the bible says?

 

[Silverhair]

Just out of curiosity, why do you not capitalize the word, "Bible"?

Why do you?

 

[KenH]

Christ is the main subject of the bible but if you spend any time reading you will find many other things included in the text. So your wrong in in question. The main theme is forgiveness of sin through trust in God, we see that in both the OT & NT.

You answer is just so very, very sad.

 

[KenH]

Why do you?

The Bible is God's Word; therefore, I prefer to capitalize it as well as words referring to God.

 

[KenH]

God has given man the free will so that when they hear the gospel message they can believe or reject that message. So who do you think exercises faith?
The bible is clear that God saves those that believe, or do you not trust what the bible says?

So you believe that you brought up faith somewhere from your own "want to", eh? Sad to see you so wrong about what you falsely believe is the gospel.

 

[Marooncat79]

Regeneration Precedes Faith: Six Passages in Paul That Prove Faith is a Gift - The Aquila Report

 

[Marooncat79]

Regeneration Precedes Faith: Six Passages in Paul That Prove Faith is a Gift - The Aquila Report

 

[Marooncat79]

Does regeneration necessarily precede conversion?