Will a Christian commit certain sins?

Oh, I believe the Scripture. From beginning to end. And if you can show me where I can find that a saved person will spend 1000 years in hell (scripture, not speculation), I will be glad to read it and comment on it.

I have read through the Word of God several times and have not found it, and you fail to produce that which you preach.

 

Well then by all means PM me with this evidence that one either loses their salvation or was never a Christian, because I have been asking for this evidence for about two years now and to date no one has been able to give it so I look forward to your PM. Or feel free to email me if you want.

 

J. Jump; here you start a argument that we are using scripture out of context and then you say we agree.

2. Then you say people who commit such acts are not Christians and that is what this whole thread is about and you have fought us all the way but now you say those who commit such acts are not Christians.

3. I am at a loss!!!!!

4. What are you saying.

Jud 1:4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Gal 2:4And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

 

My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the one Paul preached, will not assign one who is one of His to hell.

So, you must be preaching another Christ than that is preached by Paul.

 

Well of course you are going to say that, but it's awfully funny you weren't able to disprove it then and you haven't disproven it to date . . . so until you can I'll stick with Scripture.

So do the Mormons and the Jehovah Witnesses, but that doesn't make them right

Oh I'm sure you would be glad to read it and comment on it Sorry not interested in your debate for debate purposes.

Well I can't help you there. It's not my job to "make" you see.

Again utter nonsense.

 

I tried to highlight the part that shows that His Grace is sufficient to keep us from the thorn in the flesh which is a messenger of Satan. He said it was a thorn in the flesh. He said it by His Grace we are able to overcome.
What else do you want J. Jump?

You seem to have a hard time grasping things. I try to make them as simple as I can.

What in the world do you mean by taking advantage of it. It means it helps us overcome sin. jeepers.

 

you refuse to produce that which you claim to be true? Come on, if we are in err as you claim we are, it is your responsibility, if you are who you claim to be, to show us by scripture where we are wrong.

I have asked you for your supposed proof in many threads and you cannot produce them.

I have given Scripture many times in many threads to show the child of God will not spend 1000 years in hell during the millenial kingdom. To date, you have produced no Scripture at all

I will stick to Scripture

 

Amy it is so sad that you have fallen for this, and I hope through more study you will see the error of their ways! I really do.

Eternal salvation is based upon the death and shed blood of Jesus Christ the Lamb of God. There is nothing in that text that talks about His death or shed blood. This is not an eternal salvation context.

 

Well J. Jump; it may be sad for you but we feel very well. One thing for sure you won't hear any of us say we are capable of molesting our children or anyone else's children.

I think I will call it a night we got off in to this 1000 years in Hell for the Children of God now even though they can sin and it will not cause them to miss Heaven. Boy that makes a lot of sense now don't it?

 

That's a load of bologna. This is the biggest reason why I have stopped responding to "your" posts. And this is why I will stop again. All you can do is repeat this garage. You do err. It has been shown, in this thread as well as others you have participated in. My responsibility to you has been completed.

You know you can say that until you are purple in the face and that doesn't make it true, but I guess you think if you type it enough times that it will be true. You just make your own truth up as you go along I guess.

"If I type this enough times it has to be true" HBSMN thinks as he :type:

"If I type this enough times it has to be true" HBSMN thinks as he :type:

 

Bro. Bob I will have to get back with you later on your latest posts. I've got someone waiting on me to get some "work" done

 

ok, take care.

How could the saved spend a 1000 years in Hell, if they can commit all these sins that are already paid for.

 

I have found only 9 instances of a thousand years in the Word of God. Show me which one says the saved will spend 1000 years in hell please. Otherwise, quit preaching your false doctrine in this thread.

Psalms 90:4 (KJV) For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night. {when...: or, when he hath passed them}

Ecclesiastes 6:6 (KJV) Yea, though he live a thousand years twice [told], yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:2 (KJV) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Revelation 20:3 (KJV) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 20:5 (KJV) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:6 (KJV) Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Revelation 20:7 (KJV) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

 

Well, that is what happened to those in Corith and they couldn't do all those terrible sins again.

HBSMN;
I don't know any in particular but I think there are some who believe God's children will go to Hell. I have heard some things since coming on BB that I never heard before and one of them is that the saved can still commit all those terrible sins. The scripture plainly says with such not too walk and how can darkness and light walk together.

 

Brother Bob,

I have addressed this issue many times, and each time J.Jump evades the answer by saying such as he did above. He has never produced the Scripture to back his ludicrous claim, even though he says he did.


His claims that the Child of God can spend 1000 years in hell and then spend the rest of eternity with the Lord is nothing but the Catholic doctrine of Purgatory brought over into the Christian faith. His is a heretical doctrine and not to be accepted by the Child of God.

 

HBSMN;
If you think about it for a minute, it ties right in with this thread where they can even molest their own children and still go to Heaven. I guess some believe maybe they will go to Hell for a while to pay for that molestation, I don't know. It does tie together though.

Hell was built for the souls of the unbelievers.

 

Nite..........:sleeping_2: