Will God heal our land?

23 1/3% as one of the tenths was every third year, if I recall correctly.

I would be curious, DD, where you arrived at the idea that any of the tenths was based on something other than 100% as the starting point.

 

Ken, you might be right. I can never remember all of them. Every third year would be just under 8%. I was close.

 

If you add all those numbers together and divde by three and then multiply by six, it will spell out the name of the name anti-Christ. Yeah, I heard about it on the Prophecy News Hour...

Joseph Botwinick

 

Because Commercial Christianity 'needs' it?

 

Sounds like you're on a roll, too, ha!

 

Let me get you straight. Are you claiming that you don't sin? I agree with John's interpretation. Perhaps you should take a look at the mote in your own eye first.

 

Well well well.

If my memory serves me well ( often it does NOT) it was the "name-it-claim-it bunch who "popularized" this passage.
But even if they did not, what do ya'll say we look at it in context?
2Ch 7:12
¶ And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.
2Ch 7:13
If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
2Ch 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2Ch 7:15
Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
2Ch 7:16
For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.
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Why of course!!! I can see now! It does apply to America!

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In HIS service;
Jim

 

The promise is definitely to Israel. But since the Bible is a living Book, I believe that we are to look for Biblical principles. It was Dr. Cedarholm that I always used to hear:
"The Bible has one interpretation, but many applications."
That is true here, as long as it does not contradict Scripture elsewhere. America is blessed today (in contrast to other nations) because it based its foundation on Christian principles. There is more freedoms in America than in any other nation on the face of the world. Freedom of religion is one of the most precious freedoms that we have. Those are the type of things that we need to pray for.

There are many verses that support this concept in another way. Paul says that we should pray for the leaders of our land.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

If we expect to live a quiet and peaceful life in all godliness and honesty, we must pray for our political leaders. By God's grace they alone can heal our land. For the king's heart is in the Lord's hand.

On the other hand I do not believe the Bible teaches any such thing as a great revival before Christ comes (i.e., the rapture). I believe that there will be a a great falling away. We can see the beginnings of that in our day and age. A great apostacy. Jesus himself said, that when he comes, "Would he find faith on the earth?" This was a rhetorical question indicating no. Men would be turning from the faith going into apostacy, making true believers wonder if they were ever saved in the first place. Can any one explain what the former apologist Pinnock believes now, as compared to what he formerly believed, for example?
DHK

 

And WHO is Pinnock and WHY should I care? As if that means anything.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

Today, the doctrine of justification is widely ignored, rarely central, and not infrequently denied outright by Protestant and, tragically, Evangelical theologians and pastors…. One of my old professors, Dr. Clark Pinnock, is so uncomfortable with an objective justification that he favors the "possibility of a doctrine of purgatory."
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/apologetics/AP0200W4.htm

Pinnock is above all insistent that the NT witness to the centrality and exclusive finality of Christ is non-negotiable for Christians: ‘Jesus Christ is Lord of all!’ (Acts 10:36). He contrasts the evangelical adherence to the doctrinal normativity of the Bible to the approach of non-evangelical thinkers such as John Hick for whom the authority of Scripture has been abandoned. Because the Bible no longer plays an authoritative role in Hick’s theologizing, his own effort to demythologize the person of Christ has resulted in an abdication of (among other things) the historic Christian belief in the incarnation. For all biblically devoted Christians, ‘Jesus was and is the unique vehicle and means of God’s saving love in the world, and its definitive Savior.’
www.bethel.edu/~ayong/PINNOCK.DOC -

--the latter quote is what he formerly believed;
the former quote is what he now believes.
DHK

 

?? Clearly, you're either reading something into my posts which isn't there, or you have a preconcieved agenda about anything I post. Likely both.

Excellent point. Regardless of whether the "heal our land" verse was in reference to Israel, it's still pertinent to each believer individually, as is Ps23.

My point exactly. Careful, Daniel David will likely accuse you of posting nonsense as well.