Will only the pure in heart see God?

[Brother Bob]

I agree wholeheartly!

That was the purpose of giving the Scripture. I just keep hearing it preached that only the "pure in heart will see God" and leave it at that and I think it should be made more plainer what the preacher is saying.

 

[EdSutton]

lol, I knew someone would bring that up.

Yes, EVERYONE will see in one form (loving Father) or another (Righteous Judge)

However the verse in discussion is about those within context of the kingdom.

The unsaved are not part of the kingdom

Outta' curiosity here, do you mean "the Kingdom of Heaven", "the Kingdom of God", or "My kingdom", among others?

Ed

 

[Brother Bob]

Can you be in the Kingdom of Heaven and not end up in the Kingdom of God or are you already there? Now, "your Kingdom" I haven't seen or heard of it but glad to hear you got one. lol

 

[HankD]

Yes, EVERYONE will see in one form (loving Father) or another (Righteous Judge)

However the verse in discussion is about those within context of the kingdom.

The unsaved are not part of the kingdom

Yes, and this kind of "seeing" or not "seeing" (blindness) is happening in the world right now:

See "See" in the context of this verse :

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
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HankD

 

[LeBuick]

I spoke on this for a prayer breakfast this morning and I now give one vote no.

Pure in heart is not a pre-requisite to see God. It is a characteristic of one whose heart has been transformed by the transforming grace of Jesus. Faith is the only pre-requisite of getting to salvation. I place my argument with that of the thief on the cross.

So yes, if your heart has been made pure by Christ then you will see God for sure but there are some whose heart has yet to be transformed who will also see God.

 

[Brother Bob]

So yes, if your heart has been made pure by Christ then you will see God for sure but there are some whose heart has yet to be transformed who will also see God.

Amen, LeBuick;
There are two ways of seeing Him and one is as your Holy Father and the other is to see Him as He comes in the cloud of Glory when ever eye shall behold him but only the "Pure in Heart" will see Him as their "Saviour".

 

[Jeep Dragon]

Does this mean they will not "see" God in any form at all. I know they won't see God on His throne in Heaven but what about "every eye shall behold Him"?

Hmmm, what about:

(Joh 1:18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

(1Ti 6:16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen.

(1Jo 4:12) No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

Let us not play word games with the Bible. Jesus' Beattitudes were purely spiritual. How will anyone see God if they aren't even looking for Him? Have the meek "inherited the earth"? Have all the peacemakers been called "the children of God"? You can judge that for yourself, but it may be the way we are interpreting who these people are and what their blessing is. These people know who they are and they know when they have received the blessing. Also, these verses do not all imply the negative. They do not tell us as follows:

1. Cursed are the rich in spirit: for theirs is the pit of Hell.
2. Cursed are they that laugh: for they shall be oppressed.
3. Cursed are the proud: for they shall inherit "Not The Earth(TM)" :laugh:
4. Cursed are they which do starve themselves of righteousness: for they shall be empty.
5. Cursed are the merciless: for they shall depreciate mercy.
6. Cursed are the unclean in heart: for they shall see the Devil.
7. Cursed are the Warmakers(TM): for they shall be called the children of Belial...

Judge this for yourselves.:1_grouphug:

 

[Brother Bob]

Depends on whether you believe Jesus is/was God or not?

I believe the scripture to be true that blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

But, see God in what sense and does that mean that no one else will see God in "any" sense?

 

[LeBuick]

Amen, LeBuick;
There are two ways of seeing Him and one is as your Holy Father and the other is to see Him as He comes in the cloud of Glory when ever eye shall behold him but only the "Pure in Heart" will see Him as their "Saviour".

That's good Brother bob, you took it a step deeper...

So all with see but only the pure in heart will SEE him.

Thus was the problem during his days on the earth, many saw him but few SEE'd him. (ok lang. cops, by the time you get here I maybe transformed so come quickly)