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Will the Phoenix Rise?

alatide

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"whoever"

You used that same "trash talk" earlier. That has nothing to do with the attempt by Obama and his cabal of leftists to establish the Marxist United Socialist States of America, modeled after the failed Soviet Union. They are still bitter and grieving because President Reagan whupped up on the USSR without firing a shot.

The "attempt by Obama" is a lie fabricated by self righteous Republicans who have nothing positive to contribute to my country. That was demonstrated very well the last 8 years. You're trying to use the Christian religion to justify a morally bankrupt political party. That's an outrageous sin against God.
 

Bro. Curtis

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So you believe in infinite torture as a just compensation for finite transgressions, including errors in understanding God's nature?

I believe we inherit Adam's sin nature, like scripture says. I believe Christ's teachings on Hell. They are not terrorist threats. Human reason does not trump scripture. Why would you doub't it ?
 

Magnetic Poles

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The "attempt by Obama" is a lie fabricated by self righteous Republicans who have nothing positive to contribute to my country. That was demonstrated very well the last 8 years. You're trying to use the Christian religion to justify a morally bankrupt political party. That's an outrageous sin against God.
AMEN! :thumbs:
 

Revmitchell

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While I understand your view, true conversion comes not from fear, but out of love. A woman may acquiesce to a rapist armed with a gun out of fear. But she may give herself to her husband out of love.

And we cannot understand the love of God unless we understand who we are in relation to who God is. To do that it takes a a revelation of righteousness and our sin. Hell leads to an understanding of the wrath of God because of just how terrible sin is in the eyes of God. To ignore hell is to ignore the cross. And that is a distortion of the gospel.
 
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OldRegular

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The "attempt by Obama" is a lie fabricated by self righteous Republicans who have nothing positive to contribute to my country. That was demonstrated very well the last 8 years. You're trying to use the Christian religion to justify a morally bankrupt political party. That's an outrageous sin against God.

You are lying "whoever". I do not use the Christian religion to justify politics. To the contrary you frequently use your misunderstanding of the teachings of Jesus Christ to justify the establishment of the United Socialist States of America. I must assume you are one of the bitter leftist still grieving over the whupping President Reagan laid on the USSR without firing a shot.

I have asked the question of "professing Christians" how they can justify supporting the rabid slaughter of the unborn and just born babies espoused by Obama. See if you can use the teachings of Jesus Christ to justify this blasphemy. Now Obama wants to do the same to the elderly, but this time slowly, by denying medical treatment.

An abortionist, like you, has lost all right to preach to anyone about morals.
 

OldRegular

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I would remind those who continue to respond to the attempts by MP and "whoever" to change the subject that this is not a thread on theology but on politics. In this case I am trying to demonstrate the purpose of Obama and his Marxist Billionaires Club to make this a socialist country.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Why do you not answer the question?

Because it's an attempt to trip me up, like Satan did to Christ in the wilderness, and Eve in the garden. If you can't get what I believe out of what I've been saying, you lack the intellect required to engage in this debate.
 

alatide

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You are lying "whoever". I do not use the Christian religion to justify politics. To the contrary you frequently use your misunderstanding of the teachings of Jesus Christ to justify the establishment of the United Socialist States of America. I must assume you are one of the bitter leftist still grieving over the whupping President Reagan laid on the USSR without firing a shot.

I have asked the question of "professing Christians" how they can justify supporting the rabid slaughter of the unborn and just born babies espoused by Obama. See if you can use the teachings of Jesus Christ to justify this blasphemy. Now Obama wants to do the same to the elderly, but this time slowly, by denying medical treatment.

An abortionist, like you, has lost all right to preach to anyone about morals.

Another lie. Please stop lying about me. I am not an abortionist. I do not support abortion. I am against the way the far right Christian evangelical movement has sold their souls to suopport the Republican party which made abortion legal in the US and has never done much to turn that around.

Wake up. Your eternal soul is infinitely more valuable than American politics.
 

OldRegular

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Another lie. Please stop lying about me. I am not an abortionist. I do not support abortion. I am against the way the far right Christian evangelical movement has sold their souls to suopport the Republican party which made abortion legal in the US and has never done much to turn that around.

Wake up. Your eternal soul is infinitely more valuable than American politics.

You support Obama a tool of the Marxist Billionaire Club attempting to convert this Constitutional Republic into the Socialist States of America. You are therefore a supporter of abortion, euthanasia, and Marxism. You cannot plead ignorance. Obama has made it clear what he is. In fact he told the nation before they elected him. Some of them can plead ignorance because of his silver oratory but most can't. They, like you, are like the blind mice.

If I supported the slaughter of the unborn and just born along with euthanasia then I would have concerns about my Salvation in Jesus Christ but I don't. On the other hand you do!
 

Crabtownboy

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You support Obama a tool of the Marxist Billionaire Club attempting to convert this Constitutional Republic into the Socialist States of America. You are therefore a supporter of abortion, euthanasia, and Marxism. You cannot plead ignorance. Obama has made it clear what he is. In fact he told the nation before they elected him. Some of them can plead ignorance because of his silver oratory but most can't. They, like you, are like the blind mice.

If I supported the slaughter of the unborn and just born along with euthanasia then I would have concerns about my Salvation in Jesus Christ but I don't. On the other hand you do!

That is as logical as my saying because you support G. Bush you have sold your soul to the military-industrial complex and are guilty of the murder of hundreds of thousands, if not millions if we count the deaths caused by these weapons used by all countries in the word, of innocent civilians their weapons have killed. If you support the murder of these civilians I would have concerns about my Salvation in Jesus Christ .... but I don't. On the other hand you do .... to quote your words.

When you start showing concern and impathy for all human life your stance against abortion may be more credible.
 

Bro. Curtis

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That is as logical as my saying because you support G. Bush you have sold your soul to the military-industrial complex and are guilty of the murder of hundreds of thousands, if not millions if we count the deaths caused by these weapons used by all countries in the word, of innocent civilians their weapons have killed. If you support the murder of these civilians I would have concerns about my Salvation in Jesus Christ .... but I don't. On the other hand you do .... to quote your words.

When you start showing concern and impathy for all human life your stance against abortion may be more credible.

When you start being critical of the innocents killed under Obama & Clinton, you will have credibility.
 

OldRegular

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That is as logical as my saying because you support G. Bush you have sold your soul to the military-industrial complex and are guilty of the murder of hundreds of thousands, if not millions if we count the deaths caused by these weapons used by all countries in the word, of innocent civilians their weapons have killed. If you support the murder of these civilians I would have concerns about my Salvation in Jesus Christ .... but I don't. On the other hand you do .... to quote your words.
Hundreds of thousands and millions is a deliberate lie.

Your statement: "If you support the murder of these civilians I would have concerns about my Salvation in Jesus Christ .... but I don't." is nonsensical!
 

OldRegular

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What about the murder of the innocents under Bush? He did almost nothing to change abortion law.

"whoever" you have been singing that same stupid song for a year now. The fact is that the leftist/democrat party is the party of the continued slaughter of the unborn. Your hero extends that rabid policy to the just born. If the liberal/left has a god he/she would be much like the god of the Aztecs or the god of the Caananites; satiated only by the blood of innocents.
 

Bro. Curtis

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What about the murder of the innocents under Bush? He did almost nothing to change abortion law.

It's obvious you missed the point of my post, which was to CTB, not you, and I don't really feel like once again explaining your hypocrisy on war to you.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Say Crabby, are you ever going to tell me whom I am bigoted against ? You and M.P. were issued the same question, and neither one has answered.
 
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