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Will you attend church services with the coronaviras alert?

Benjamin

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If it is determined that all group gatherings in general are increasing the risk to society, then it would be irresponsible.
 

canadyjd

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Also H1N1 (swine flu epidemic) back in 2009 caused 60 million infections, but was stopped with a vaccine created in 6 months.
Right, 60 million infections and 14,000 plus deaths with swine flu.

Cold virus 19, 1500 infections and 40 deaths.

No need to panic and crawl in a hole for for six months.

peace to you
 

atpollard

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I just read up on Italy, and the issue is "flattening the curve". COVID-19 spreads very rapidly, so the risk is that too many people will be sick at the same time and there will be a shortage of respirators for the most severe cases. That will cause some people to die who might have been able to be saved if they were able to get to a respirator. Restricting public gatherings will slow down the transmission, so fewer people will be sick at the same time and there will be enough Critical Care Hospital Beds for the very worst cases.

That is what is driving the real debate at the Government and CDC. How much damage to the ECONOMY is necessary to prevent people dying because there are no Hospital Beds to care for them. How many small businesses should we force into bankruptcy to save some of the Elderly and Cancer Patients?

Those are hard questions that caused me to rethink assembling in groups. I still have no fear of the virus, but I would hate to pass the virus on to someone that ended up in a hospital bed that someone else desperately needed.
 

Van

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Seems many large gatherings are canceling events over the virus......will you be having church at home instead?
In accordance with governmental authority, our local church has suspended its meetings and other gatherings. Our Pastor will present our weekly service before cameras and it will be available for viewing at our website.
 

Scott Downey

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The more people who agree to cooperate together in social distancing and simply washing hands 20 seconds with soap (finger tips too!), the fewer of the immune compromised, elderly, infirm people will die and the sooner this virus will die down. I was looking at Africa and they dont seem to have hardly any cases, it is hot there. Singapore also temperatures in the 90's does not seem to be spreading, so summer heat coming soon may kill this thing down, which would be good for everyone. Corona viruses have always died out in the summer heat.
 

Benjamin

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...so the risk is that too many people will be sick at the same time and there will be a shortage of respirators for the most severe cases.

After seeing the hoarding going on and considering the possibilities I just ordered an oxygen concentrator for this very reason. Could be worth more than gold should one of my family members be in that need and I feel a responsibility to look out for us all. These machines will not last long if the disease spreads widely and I don't want a doctor playing God for me and mine. I take some comfort with this precaution.
 

Reynolds

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I believe churches will face a public outrage and push back if they use their protected status under the separation clause to defy public health interests. Churches should comply with public health recommendations. Our church is stubbornly going on with services despite the governor urging not to. Unfortunately, it all boils down to money. The budget cant stand the plate not passing for several weeks. That reveals a disturbing hypocrisy. We preach physical responsibility and stewardship, but cant cant survive canceling a few services. Sad state of affairs.
 

Scott Downey

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I believe churches will face a public outrage and push back if they use their protected status under the separation clause to defy public health interests. Churches should comply with public health recommendations. Our church is stubbornly going on with services despite the governor urging not to. Unfortunately, it all boils down to money. The budget cant stand the plate not passing for several weeks. That reveals a disturbing hypocrisy. We preach physical responsibility and stewardship, but cant cant survive canceling a few services. Sad state of affairs.
The people who give should give secretly by mail or some other ways rather than to be seen in public. And same way with prayers. These things done in secret, well the only reward can then come from God, and that is worth something a lot more.
Matthew 6
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
 

Jedi Knight

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Today Greg Laurie "We are having church online because of the coronavirus and city regulations we are having services online". Well they were always having church online now it actually being called just that.....church services online.
 
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Scarlett O.

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Last night at 10:30, I got a text that there are 4 cases at one hospital in town and 6 cases at another hospital. A doctor is a member of my church and called the church leadership.

We did not meet today. Our church is elderly heavy.

Our pastor is in Indonesia right now. Our minister of music and SS director have asked a handful of people to meet today at 2:00. We will be making decisions about attendance for a couple of weeks, keeping in contact with all members, and if we do cancel for a couple of weeks - suggestions for membership to view worship services of larger churches online.

There is no fear right now. Only thinking of our membership and taking precautions if the Lord leads in that direction.

Pray for our meeting today at 2:00. God is our only leader here.
 

canadyjd

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I believe churches will face a public outrage and push back if they use their protected status under the separation clause to defy public health interests. Churches should comply with public health recommendations. Our church is stubbornly going on with services despite the governor urging not to. Unfortunately, it all boils down to money. The budget cant stand the plate not passing for several weeks. That reveals a disturbing hypocrisy. We preach physical responsibility and stewardship, but cant cant survive canceling a few services. Sad state of affairs.
Churches (evangelicals in general) already face public backlash for our faith, so why would that be new?

You have a very low few of your church leadership and other members if you really believe the only reason they want to meet is to get the money. Why attend such a church?

peace to you
 

Reynolds

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Churches (evangelicals in general) already face public backlash for our faith, so why would that be new?

You have a very low few of your church leadership and other members if you really believe the only reason they want to meet is to get the money. Why attend such a church?

peace to you
Most Everyone else around canceled services. We canceled all services and meetings EXCEPT the one where the plate is passed. Coincidence? As it turns out, not many attended.

I could be wrong, but I dont think so. I have family members who are at high risk of Corona. The subject is dear to me. Even the nearby big Pentecostal church who stresses and emphasizes healing, was prudent enough to do "online only" services today.
 
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Reynolds

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The pastor of a neighboring Baptist church gets it.


COVID-19 Update
Dear Second Chance Family,

I've never experienced a time of uncertainty like this in my entire life as the world has been impacted by COVID-19 pandemic.

There is not one single person reading this right now that hasn't experienced the impact of this virus - whether through school, work or social activities being canceled.

II Timothy 1:7 says - "For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline.

First of all - as followers of Christ we cannot allow fear to dominate our mindset. Even though I have personally never seen anything like this - I know God is in complete control right now and will use all of this for good.

While we do not have the spirit of fear - we do have the spirit of power...and specifically when it comes to church leadership - the power to make decisions that are best for everyone.

That being said - we ARE going to move the Gospel forward, we ARE going to continue to see lives changed and we ARE going to continue meeting...

...however, this coming Sunday at Second Chance we will be meeting through our online service...as we have made the decision not to gather together physically.

While we know we have to be responsible and practice social distancing - we do not have to be spiritually distant.

Not only the spirit of power--but the spirit of love.

Jesus said that people would know we are His followers by the way we love one another...
Yesterday I put out a post on social media about not panicking, not letting the media overhype this and drive us crazy...

...that being the case I personally wanted us to gather together physically until I was reminded that loving one another means that we > me!

This wasn't a decision that was made lightly or out of fear - but out of genuine love for all of the people who call Second Chance home.

And then finally - self discipline.

In order to advance in our walk in any area of life - we must be disciplined in our steps.
Based on the fact that the national and state of SC has declared a state of emergency - I personally believe it would be irresponsible and undisciplined for us to gather together this weekend until we can gain further clarity on this situation.

So - we ARE meeting this Sunday - online - at 8:30, 10, 11:30 and 5 (same times!) Let's work together and get this word out to as many people as possible...maybe, just maybe God will use this to reach people who would have never actually came to church - but are willing to watch online.

I will keep everyone updated as we monitor this situation - for now this will effect this Sunday only - and from there we will wait and see.

I love you all so much - and honestly, this isn't too big of a switch for us - because we actually started online and met that way for over a year!!

This pandemic is a serious issue - but - we are praying and believing for miracles, for a quick medical solution - and believing with all our hearts that the best really is yet to come.

Pastor P
 
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