Originally posted by Charles Meadows:
Grannygumbo:
"Till a year ago, I'd never so much as heard of a KJVo or Ruckmanism, or Gail, or Greek/Hebrew, etc, etc, etc...all I EVER had on hand(or cared to, for there was no reason to have anything else), was my Bible...not called the KING JAMES, just HOLY BIBLE."
No one would fault you for that position. It's a fine stance, and an internally consistent one. But there are those (not me!) who have on hand the NIV, NASB, NKJV and have grown to love its verbage - the HOLY BIBLE. If you (which I'm not saying you have) choose to denigrate their bible then you're attacking them. Remember this is a debate forum! 
If you state an opinion then you're likely to have to defend it. You don't have to make any excuses for what you believe (as you well know) but on this forum you know you're probably going to get asked to PROVE IT!
This is actually a very good description of what is happening.
I understand Granny's reasoning, because I know many Christians who have accepted "THEIR BIBLE" as "THE BIBLE" and there is nothing wrong with that. There isn't anybody on this board (I don't imagine) that does not believe Granny is a good Christian. That is not the point.
However, it is when people from the KJVo group start saying that MY Bible is NOT the Word of God, then I start having a problem and I will speak out against such an attack.
I also think there is a misunderstanding of exactly what the word "ignorant" means. When we were kids, we might use "ignorant" as a slang word for "stupid". The TRUE meaning of the word "ignorant" is simply stated as a lack of knwoledge in a particular subject. When I say that I am ignorant of Biblical Hebrew, it does not make me any less smart than other people or even scholars. I may not be as smart in THEIR subject matter, but they may be just as "ignorant" in the fields that I work.
Everybody is "ignorant" to different issues. Do not take offense when someone calls you ignorant because all they are saying is that you are ignorant to the subject matter being discussed or, more simply put, you do not know very much about THAT particular subject.
If a person is "ignorant" to Biblical history and history of translation, it does not make them a good Christian or a bad Christian. It simply means they have not been educated in that particular subject.
In a way, I think scholars have hurt themselves because there are both good scholars and bad scholars. People rant and rave about scholars who believe in evolution. Then they turn around and ask a less educated person to believe them when they say I know more about Biblical history than you because I am a Biblical scholar.
I am not trying to point fingers at ANYBODY. Personally, I do not believe in the KJVo position, but in some cases, such as Granny and Michelle, I understand their frustration and maybe the use of the word "ignorance" is commonplace in our level of thinking, it is a personal insult to their way of thinking.
All I am trying to do here is bring this to a level of conversation where we can talk without emotions clouding the issues and I think maybe "walling in ignorance" is a little bit much. As Christians, let us explain our views in love and attempt to show the truth.
I do see one thing that is a definite problem. Members of the KJVo group do tend to skip over long posts containing a lot of information. Maybe we need to stick to one single question at a time until we receive a satisfactory answer for that question. I have tried to do that with some questions and they are ignored. Why, possibly because there is no answer to that question. Possibly, it goes against the "faith" wall built up by the KJVo groups. If you will notice, when you ask a Mormon missionary about a conflict in their belief, what is their answer? Usually it is the same answer you get from the KJVo crowd: "Who came up with that information? or Where did you get that information?" Then instead of answering the question they will discredit the source with a simple. Oh, yeah, It came from "White" (for example), yeah, he doesn't know squat about the KJV. He's a liar. etc. etc.
I am just rambling here a bit, but I think if we can stick specifically to questions, then it will be difficult for our KJVo group to provide answers and maybe they will start seeing the truth. I just, personally, don't think that they understand OUR use of the word "ignorance" and maybe for the sake of peace and trying to obtain the reasons they believe what they do, it is a negative.
Just some opinion here. What do you expect from an "ignoramous like me".
