William Cohen calls for gays in military.

I'm not threatened by them because I know I'm straight.
But there's just something disgusting about two people of the same sex making love, and using anatomical parts that are not God-designed for intercourse.
And then try to imagine those two with full beards, bulging muscles, and bobbing Adam's apples....aaarrrrgggghhhh !!! :BangHead: :tonofbricks:LORD, I WANNA GO HOME !!!!

 

I remember reading somewhere that a debate will hit rock bottom when someone on either side of the debate references the Nazis.

That being said, perhaps it's time for this thread to die.....

Regards,
BiR

 

I remember reading somewhere that the only thing men learn from history is, men don't learn from history.

 

Apparently, some men learn the wrong things from history...........

 

It's not that uncommon. A man who has some homosexual tendencies, which he is trying to deny or control, may very well become violent if a homosexual comes on to him.

It's a very real problem, and it has to be considered when evaluating the policy.

 

The last I checked, we are all responsible for our own lives. Perhaps you have enough time to worry about what others do in their bedrooms, Wayne, but it's really nobody's business - it's between them and The Almighty. I know that I have enough to deal with in my personal life than to worry about the sexual orientation of others, and reacting with a "godly anger," whatever that means.

Why not concentrate on spreading the Good News, and let those who have made their choices in life deal with the choices they have made? To usurp a quote from a movie I once saw: We don't have a lot of time here.
[that's not verbatim] I have too many friends and family that need Jesus, and a "godly anger" isn't going to help me help them understand that need.

Regards, hope you are well,
BiR

 

Godwin's Law? Blast from the past:

http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html

You lose.

What former Secretary Cohen wants to do is to modify "don't ask, don't tell" into "don't ask, don't tell, don't harass" AGAIN:

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2000/t01272000_t0027uk_.html

Not gonna happen, from last summer, this throwback policy:

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,101883,00.html

was reinstiuted by this administration.

 

Can you please explain "godly anger" more clearly? Surely you are not talking about murder, as in your previous posts?

 

If a female prostitute tried to "seduce" me, do I have a biblical right to kill her for tempting me with sin?

No difference between that and being seduced by a homosexual.

The best thing a person could do in such a situation is to tell the offender that you will pray for God to show them the evils of their lifestyle and to turn from their sins. That ought to difuse the situation fairly quickly.

 

I think I will have to disagree with this statement, BIR. While sin is a personal thing, and to be dealt with between God and the individual wallowing in it, the effects of sin, on the other hand, is universal, and contagious.

Homosexuality is sin, there are no two ways about it, just as murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, and telling a white lie is.

But, besides being sin, homosexuality spreads and creates disease. It is an unhealthy lifestyle, just as heterosexual promiscuity is, not to mention being abnormal. It is not normal, and therein lies the rub. The homosexuals are pushing that lifestyle as a "normal, acceptable" even God-given lifestyle. They are pushing that philosophy in the schools to children, in the churches, and now, into the military. Nothing is sacrosanct anymore.

You're right. If two full-bearded, muscled, very macho looking men would like to use spots in their "ups" and "downs" to gratify their lust towards each other in the privacy of their bedrooms, it is their own business. But when they start telling my grandchildren through my grandchildren's school and through the symbols of American society such as the military, that it is a normal, acceptable, way of life, then it becomes my business.

My favorite coach has stated the issue most clearly in pointing out how the homosexual community and their "understand-ers" (forgive the neology) have obfuscated the real issue by diverting the debate to "choice".

I am going to post his article as another thread, and those of you who think that to fight homosexuality's tightening grip on the fabric of American society is nothing more than self-righteousness are welcome to argue against the points he has raised.

 

Choice is not an "obfuscation."
Again, it's a choice that one must make, and must give account to The Almighty. I can respect your opinion, I simply do not share it.

I do not feel compelled to spend time debating the subject of homosexuality. We are in agreement that it is sin, and apparently agree that it is something that is best left to an individual to decide for themselves. Let's leave it at that.
Have fun in your discussion.

Regards,
BiR

 

==Since our military contains many fornicators, adulterers, drunks, and porn addicts, among other things, why pick on the homosexuals? Honestly folks if we are going to promote kicking gays out of the military we must also promote kicking out the other immoral people.

The military is a secular, civil organization whose job it to kill by the sword. It is not a church, or a religious organization. So I see no reason to kick homosexuals out.

 

==Since you don't know me, or anything about me, I guess that kind of comment is out of line. Don't you? I have not served in the military, but I have many friends and family members who have (and do). I have also spent many years working around the military and even sometime on a military base. Everything I said in my reply is true, and nothing can be refuted by facts, so I stand by it. I have had enough experience with the military to know what I am talking about. I also happen to know what the Bible says about sin and that it does not limit its condemnation to homosexuality.