That's a poor assumption; but you were asked to explain how this country would slide into being a military dictatorship; and how you equate the civilian law enforcement agencies to China's military rule.
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Woman barred from US after denying citizenship
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That's a poor assumption; but you were asked to explain how this country would slide into being a military dictatorship; and how you equate the civilian law enforcement agencies to China's military rule.
freeatlast
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Not a surprise since American citizens can now be blown up without due process.
Yes their was an abundance of evidence that this American citizen ordered blown-up was an al-qaeda terrorist; but what happened to the presumption of innocence and the constitutional protection of our citizenry
HankD
Yes their was an abundance of evidence that this American citizen ordered blown-up was an al-qaeda terrorist; but what happened to the presumption of innocence and the constitutional protection of our citizenry
HankD
I am thinking that it was probably handled correctly.
The agents are the ones that inspected her documents.
It is not unreasonable to think that her documents were at least "questionable".
The agents held her to question her - again not unreasonable.
In the end she said that she is not a citizen.
Based on that they should not have allowed her to enter the country - especially if she was trying to present herself intially as a citizen.
If the documents were forged then keeping them was the correct thing to do so that she could not use them to attempt to reenter the U.S. at a different crossing at another time.
If you were the border agent and someone presented you with documents that you did not believe what would you have done?
Simply let her enter the country?
freeatlast
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There is no reason to believe the documents were false. They held her for 7 hours with no attorney and badgered her into signing a paper. Are you suggesting this is how a citizen should be treated?
On what basis do you conclude that there was no reason to believe that the documents were false?
Where you present at the time?
Have you subsequently seen the documents?
How do you even know that she is in fact a citizen?
If you were a border agent and someone presented documents that you thought were suspect how would you handle it?
freeatlast
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Because they refused to respond when questioned about why they did this to her and if the documents were false a person would be stupid to sue which would only open the door to prison time.
So they held her for 7 hours with no attorney and badgered her into signing a paper. Are you suggesting this is how a citizen should be treated?
That's a bit of a reach.
Since she is suing it is only common practice not to make public comments about the matter.
Prision time for what?
She is not currently in the country. Wouldn't she need to actually be here in order to be jailed?
By the way - she isn't asking for a judge to validate her birth certificate - she is asking for a judge to "declare her to be a citizen".
That sounds a bit odd to me. Kind of like "I am not a citizen so I will get a judge to say that I am."
I already answered this.
You have not proven that she is a citizen.
And yes, if her documents were suspect, I would have done no different.
Now how about you answering a question for a change?
For the third time... If you were a border agent and you were presented with a birth certificate and other documents that you felt were suspect what would you do?
Means nothing. Stupid people sue over stupid things all the time.
She wasn't "inside the U.S." - she was attepting to "enter the U.S.".
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