Woman tells newspaper Roy Moore groped her when she was 14; other women make similar claims

[Calminian]

Just FYI, there's now a 5th woman.

Woman Says Roy Moore Tried to Rape Her When She Was 16

The story definitely has some credibility, including a yearbook signature that links him to the victim. Sigh. I really do hope this is not true. We'll see what else comes out. If it's true, Bannon, Alabama and many others will owe Trump an apology. He wanted Luther Strange, and he might have better instincts than than all these seasoned pendants who pushed Moore.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Yet you already have Moore tried and convicted.

Uh, no. I haven't expressed an opinion about whether or not the charges are true, only noted the desperation of his defenders.

I don't have a dog in this fight.

 

[carpro]

Uh, no. I haven't expressed an opinion about whether or not the charges are true, only noted the desperation of his defenders.

I don't have a dog in this fight.

Without noting the desperation of his attackers. Telling.

You've chosen sides. You just refuse to recognize it.

 

[carpro]

Just FYI, there's now a 5th woman.

Woman Says Roy Moore Tried to Rape Her When She Was 16

The story definitely has some credibility, including a yearbook signature that links him to the victim.

A signed yearbook is not even close to corroboration of a rape accusation.

 

[Calminian]

A signed yearbook is not even close to corroboration of a rape accusation.

I never said it was. But it does connect him to the alleged victim and takes this out of the realm of random people looking for payoffs. It's easy to find people like this out of millions, but very difficult to find them in the small sphere of people he knew. That's the problem.

I don't want this to be true any more than you. I hate these tactics. But he's looking more and more like Clinton-lite. It's not looking good. And I'm not sure I trust Steve Bannon's political instincts anymore. I think they all need to start listening to Trump.

Drudge headline:

MOORE ACCUSATIONS

 

[777]

Yes, all the yearbook thing proves is he knew her. Gloria Allred being involved doesn't help her credibility.

Still, there has to be a grain of truth in this, although this latest one claims Moore had been flirting with her and she still didn't have a problem with him taking her home - well, how did she usually get home? And again, this is out of personal experience to take your yearbook into your place of work.

“At some point he gave up. He then looked at me and said, ‘You are a child. I am the District Attorney of Etowah County. ‘If you tell anyone about this, no one will believe you,’”

Please, he wasn't the district attorney of the county and this is pretty cheesy dialogue. Employees often go in and out of the back lots, not exactly a secluded place.

Nelson said she didn't want to tell her boyfriend because he had a “very violent temper” and feared he would get himself into trouble. (Two years later, Nelson said she told her younger sister. Nelson's mother and now-husband were also told, she said.)

Nelson said she was left bruised by the alleged assault.

“When I got home, I went to my room, and the following morning, my neck was black and blue and purple,” Nelson said.

Yet nobody asked her what happened to her neck? Did Moore ever show up to the restaurant again?

Nelson said she and her husband both supported Donald Trump for president.

You think she'd be afraid of voting for another uncharged sex offender. I think Gloria found out he signed her yearbook and they went from there.

 

[carpro]

I never said it was. But it does connect him to the alleged victim...

That only deserves a big fat SO WHAT?

Has he denied he ate at a restaurant where she worked? I wonder how many other girls worked there.

 

[Calminian]

I hope y'all are right. But it's very odd that they are finding these accusers from the small sphere of people Judge Moore knew.

 

[carpro]

I hope y'all are right. But it's very odd that they are finding these accusers from the small sphere of people Judge Moore knew.

Being "right" is not the point.

Before his life and career is ruined, I'd like some concrete proof. There simply is none.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Without noting the desperation of his attackers. Telling.

I have not observed "the desperation" of his accusers. I can't "note" something I have not observed.

You've chosen sides. You just refuse to recognize it.

I'm not a fan of Roy Moore for his idolization of the Ten Commandments over the past 20 years. Nor do I care for his conduct from the bench - conduct that has gotten him removed from his position twice. That record is not in dispute and is enough for me not to want him in public office. But since I am not a citizen of Alabama, never a Democrat, and not a Republican anymore, I don't have any real say in the matter.

I have no idea if he is guilty or not of the current charges, but his defenders are doing him no favors.

 

[steaver]

Having voted for Barack Obama twice and Hillary Clinton last year, and since I am an Opportunity Democrat

My reply has nothing to do with this OP, but it always makes me cringe when a Christian asks an abortion proponent to be their representative. Something very wrong going on......and I believe it could be a heart problem.

 

[carpro]

I have not observed "the desperation" of his accusers. I can't "note" something I have not observed.

Then you are only paying attention to one side of the story. Telling , as well.

 

[carpro]

There is a good chance Roy Moore will win this election in spite of all the unproven accusations being bandied about.

His opponent has a lot of baggage of his own.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Then you are only paying attention to one side of the story. Telling , as well.

Actually, I'm not following it closely at all. I've watched the headlines roll by, heard his defenders, and paid particular attention to the Breitbart story linked to this thread. The Breitbart story does a spectacularly bad job of defending Moore. Along with the way he is being defended by his friends (with their presumption that Moore had a thing for teenage girls) makes me think there is something to the story.

What is "telling" is that I am only listening to his defenders and they make his sound guilty.

 

[KenH]

always makes me cringe when a Christian asks an abortion proponent to be their representative.

We evidently have a different view on voting. Since politics is downstream from culture and being very conservative culturally in the way I have lived for 62 years, I do not vote based on cultural issues. The only way to change the culture to being more Christian is through spreading the gospel of Christ Jesus, not through the ballot box and hoping it can affect things upstream.

 

[InTheLight]

Just FYI, there's now a 5th woman.

Woman Says Roy Moore Tried to Rape Her When She Was 16

The story definitely has some credibility, including a yearbook signature that links him to the victim. Sigh. I really do hope this is not true. We'll see what else comes out. If it's true, Bannon, Alabama and many others will owe Trump an apology. He wanted Luther Strange, and he might have better instincts than than all these seasoned pendants who pushed Moore.

Calumnian is floating a rape story.

The irony.

 

[carpro]

Actually, I'm not following it closely at all. I've watched the headlines roll by, heard his defenders, and paid particular attention to the Breitbart story linked to this thread. The Breitbart story does a spectacularly bad job of defending Moore. Along with the way he is being defended by his friends (presumption that Moore had a thing for teenage girls) makes me thing there is something to the story.

What is "telling" is that I am only listening to his defenders and they make his sound guilty.

The Breitbart story simply pointed out an inconsistency in one accusers story. An inconsistency you tried to write off, but couldn't. We have another inconsistency in the latest attempted rape accusation, Roy Moore was not a District Attorney in 1977 like she said, and even quoted him as saying. Another accuser has been tied to the Clinton campaign.

They keep mounting. But in the end, those that choose to will ignore any inconsistencies. They'd rather convict Moore in the court of public opinion because they could never get it done in a court of law.

It's all about politics and I wouldn't doubt that the accusers were paid to talk, either by the media or by a leftist organization. Especially after 40 years of silence.

 

[carpro]

We evidently have a different view on voting. Since politics is downstream from culture and being very conservative culturally in the way I have lived for 62 years, I do not vote based on cultural issues.

Typical copout for a christian democrat, when in fact voting for people like Obama and Clinton should be an unconscionable act for any christian.

 

[KenH]

We disagree on politics but that’s okay. Still love ya anyway.

 

[Adonia]

So Judge Moore could be guilty of all this, big deal, it's simple par for the political course. What really get's me is the total hypocrisy coming from the Democrats, the Republican establishment, and the media. They cared not one wit about all the sexual perpetrators from their side which included Bill Clinton (rape and other things), Barney Frank (running a gay prostitution service), Ted Kennedy (numerous affairs and a death), Gerry Studds (underage gay lover) and on and on and on.

And then those establishment Republicans, acting like the Senate would somehow be sullied if Judge Moore actually won. Good grief, the Senate has had thru the years the likes of KKK Grand Kleagle Robert C. Byrd ( the supposed "conscience" of the Senate), the aforementioned serial philanderer Ted Kennedy (the supposed "Lion of the Senate"), Mitch McConnell who outright lied to the voters about repealing Obamacare ( pull it out "root and branch" he said over and over) and a myriad of other scallywags and deadbeats.