women deacons

1. Glad I am not a women in any of your churches
2. Glad the Holy Spirit does the "calling" and not any of you
3. So disappointed that half the population is disqualified for service, even though there is neither male nor female, Jew nor Gentile.

 

We tend to make deacons into more than what the Bible instructs or commands. Not to minimize the women issue, but we need to get it right with the men deacons.

Bad Examples:
-Deacons that rule rather than serve
-Church by-laws that allow deacons to govern the church body.
-Deacons that can fire or hire the Pastor or staff.

I serve as a deacon and the only thing I'm allowed to do is to serve the needs of church members, visit the sick, help the poor through our benevolence program, help with outreach, and other details as needs arise. Other than these, I have 1 vote like all other church members.

 

What I find very intersting is that the exact word is NOT used in Rom 16:1 and 1Tim anywhere. The word used in Rom 16:1 is diakonia. The word used in 1Tim is diakonos. Clearly the ending is different. I know enough about the Greek language to know that the ending of the word is very significant to the eaning of the word and how it is used. Though I am in seminary I have not taken Greek yet(next semester); I would like someone who knows more to clarify the difference in these two words. It sure seems that God is differentiating beteween these two words and these two ministries; especially the position of deacon(diakoneo)1Tim3:1 clearly a different word used again. Could someone please clarify the difference in these words by looking at the endings and not just the root.

 

***editedh forget it, I've said all I can.***

 

I stick with my post about the youth ministers being men and women should not be the teachers of any boy regardless of age. I know there is no Biblical proof for it but the Bible does not command a woman to teach or lead boys or young men. I speak from personal experiance and the experiences of other men who were previously boys tought by woman. A woman should not teach boys (not because i am sexist) because the boys need a male influence in any church activity. A woman can not help the motional needs of a boy, they also are unable to show a male influence. In youth groups there should be a male leader because the Bible states men should be the leaders so therefore there needs to be a male leader to lead young men to become the leaders the future church and america needs. I do not speak weather or not if it is fair to the woman, but the job of a leader is to help the ones being tought and when it comes to teaching male students regardless of age their needs come before what "fairness" would have a woman to have.

 

Most school teachers are women. Comment?

 

School teachers are not the spiritual leaders of the young men in their classes.

 

except in Christian schools

 

Thats what i was refering to is christian leaders. "Most school teachers are women. Comment?" That is true even about christian schools but just because it is out there doesent mean i believe its right. As you can see i am the last person you would find following what everybody else does, lol

 

Where does that leave a mother? We cannot help with the emotional needs of our sons? Are we not to teach our sons manners, character, etc.?

Puleeeeeeeze!

I do not believe women should be deacons. I also believe a youth minister should be a married man or a man/wife team.

But the statement I quoted above is ridiculous...

 

Don, I disagree with your remark about women teaching boys of any age. My husband and I are co-teachers of the 4 year olds in S/S. Last week we had 18. On Wednesday night, all of our Cubbie AWANA leaders are women.

I have no problem with this.

 

What about christian women(mothers) homeschoolers who teach christian homeschool material?

 

Christian Home school material is still just school work, Donna. A parent would have to chose 'Bible' as one of their courses.

Remember that MY remarks are aimed at teachers of teen boys. The father should still remain the spiritual leader and teach the Bible course, don't YOU think?

 

Some are. I had a Christian teacher who had a great impact on me even to this day. I did not come from a Christian home.

Sometime read the story of Dawson Trotman (the founder of The Navigators) and the two ladies who prayed for him.

 

My remark is out of context. Your teacher most probably was not teaching Bible theology! Having an effect on you and leading you to the Lord is different from being a spiritual leader as in teaching Bible theology.

 

I have to disagree with you here Diane. My husband has nothing to do with Brent's home schooling.

I just picked up Bible Paces yesterday and I intend to teach them to Brent. We are to teach our children (male and female).

I see nothing in the Bible prohibiting a mother from instructing her son in the ways of the Lord/Bible.

Church is not the same as home...

 

Me, too.

 

Chipsgirl, God does not contradict Himself, so although I do not know your heart or situation, I can tell you with certainty that He is not telling you anything that conflicts with what He has already said in scripture. THAT is where God speaks to us.