Women in pants

[Salamander]

Just a few verses down from the passage forbidding a woman to wear "that which pertaineth to a man": is

Deuteronomy 22

11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.​

I had a pastor friend who had this "no slacks for women" rule in the church he pastored.​

I showed him this verse just 6 verses down verse 5 which he based the rule upon and asked him if he had the ushers check that everyone attending was also wearing non-blended apparel (all wool or all cotton).​

He called me a trouble-maker.​

HankD​

And he might have been right due to your use of the verse. Now if you had studied the purpose of the disallowing of the mixing of diverse fibers weakening the garment?

Things have changed in garment making, but the moral aspect of pants on women has not.:tongue3:

 

[Salamander]

HA! You trouble maker you! :tongue3:

My closet is full of blends . . .

Is that spiritually speaking?:tongue3:

 

[Jerome]

ushers check that everyone attending was also wearing non-blended apparel (all wool or all cotton).

100% polyester more likely:laugh:

 

[Jerome]

"researches of modern science have proved that "wool, when combined with linen, increases its power of passing off the electricity from the body. In hot climates, it brings on malignant fevers and exhausts the strength; and when passing off from the body, it meets with the heated air, inflames and excoriates like a blister"" --- Jameison-Faussett-Brown Commentary

 

[annsni]

"researches of modern science have proved that "wool, when combined with linen, increases its power of passing off the electricity from the body. In hot climates, it brings on malignant fevers and exhausts the strength; and when passing off from the body, it meets with the heated air, inflames and excoriates like a blister"" --- Jameison-Faussett-Brown Commentary

THAT is so funny!!!!

 

[rbell]

If people would just eat more fried food, and wear cordouroy, we'd have more Christians "on fire for God."

 

[abcgrad94]

Funny thing, they now have mirrors in department stores so a woman can see what a man is looking at when she walks by in a pair of pants.:tongue3:

ROFLOL! Now that's funny! Nice try, Sal, but no deal.

Actually, mirrors are used to make the space look larger than it is, and classier. If you'd ever been to a Home Interior party, you'd know this is a strategy used in homes, too.

By the way, the 3-way mirrors in the dressing room are so we can see if we look fat in whatever we are trying on.

 

[HankD]

And he might have been right due to your use of the verse. Now if you had studied the purpose of the disallowing of the mixing of diverse fibers weakening the garment?

Things have changed in garment making, but the moral aspect of pants on women has not.:tongue3:

If you went to a church in Scotland and the men showed up wearing their kilts would that be against Deuteronomy 22:5?

If not why not?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander?

HankD

 

[HankD]

"researches of modern science have proved that "wool, when combined with linen, increases its power of passing off the electricity from the body. In hot climates, it brings on malignant fevers and exhausts the strength; and when passing off from the body, it meets with the heated air, inflames and excoriates like a blister"" --- Jameison-Faussett-Brown Commentary

Jerome, just what exactly is the point of this citation?

HankD

 

[Salamander]

ROFLOL! Now that's funny! Nice try, Sal, but no deal.

Actually, mirrors are used to make the space look larger than it is, and classier. If you'd ever been to a Home Interior party, you'd know this is a strategy used in homes, too.

By the way, the 3-way mirrors in the dressing room are so we can see if we look fat in whatever we are trying on.

Um, not true. Women are obsessed with how their backside looks to all who would view. It's a fact of the women in pants life.

Try a little research on "Apple-bottms" and notice their icon.

Apple Bottoms is a clothing line that caters to trendsetting women of all shapes and sizes. Celebrating and liberating the natural curves of a woman's body is Apple Bottoms' supreme mission. This unique brand is the mastermind of multi-platinum superstar Nelly. He describes the intent behind the design by saying, "A woman should not try to fit the clothes; the clothes should fit the woman!" His creative team of designers crafted the perfect fit for different silhouettes that accentuate the curves of all women. Nelly is personally involved in the process to ensure that the designs enhance the beauty of the woman who wears them.

In August 2003 Nelly, alongside Yomi Martin and Ian Kelly, created their Apple Bottoms "Dream Team" which kicked off a nationwide model search for the "Apple Bottoms Girl," which was televised on VH1. It quickly became one of the top shows on VH-1 that year. The popularity of the jeans was so enormous they sold out completely within two weeks. Exposure from the search garnered national media attention, resulting in a more diverse client base and extensive growth for the brand. In April of 2004, Apple Bottoms partnered up with Picked Fresh, LLC in a new venture to expand and further develop the brands early success. Since then, Apple Bottoms has matured into an international fashion focused denim brand. The signature apple pockets, which began as Apple's core, has transcended into a cutting edge collection that extends the boundaries of denim.

Apple Bottoms jeans have been worn and are beloved by celebrities including Oprah, Vivica Fox, Fergie, Ashanti and many more. Branching out from our denim collection the "Apple Tree" has grown into: sportswear, intimates, swimsuits, plus sizes, scrubs, sunglasses, optical, jewelry, handbags & accessories, footwear, childrens wear and infants.

You can dance all around the issue all you like, but the ideals of fashion refute everything you have said.

 

[Salamander]

If you went to a church in Scotland and the men showed up wearing their kilts would that be against Deuteronomy 22:5?

If not why not?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander?

HankD

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[sag38]

For someone who is so against women in pants you sure seem to know a lot about the subject. Perhaps you have an unhealthy obsession.

 

[annsni]

Um, not true. Women are obsessed with how their backside looks to all who would view. It's a fact of the women in pants life.

Try a little research on "Apple-bottms" and notice their icon.

You can dance all around the issue all you like, but the ideals of fashion refute everything you have said.

So, as a man, you know that women are obsessed with how their backside looks?? That's interesting.

You've never met THIS woman because, I don't care how my backside looks. That's because I have no backside - so I don't really care what it looks like. Skirts - pants - my riding breeches - they all look the same. I'm certainly not obsessed with it at all.

Apple-bottms - I've never heard of them. I'm wearing Lee jeans right now - the kind with the tummy control. It does nothing for my rear but it certainly helps this post 4 pregnancy and 4 c-section belly.

 

[dcorbett]

Don't take this wrong, ok? But why is it a dress is good for church but not for the lost world to see the dedication to the Lord one has outaside of those four walls?

I know we can never make a second first impression.

I agree, but I work at a police department, out of the public eye, and everybody already thinks I am so different - stick-in-the-mud on dirty jokes and such (my testimony) so I would really be considered some kind of freak if I wore a dress while all the other ladies wear jeans and tee shirts to work in dispatch.

 

[dcorbett]

I have to disclaimer this message.....I don't frown on the ladies that wear pants to church. I choose not to, based on my own growth and convictions.

But....if you felt it was ok, would you wear a swimsuit to church?

Food for thought.....

 

[EdSutton]

I plan to eventually get around to posting to a few responses on this thread.

Just "keep your britches on" in the meantime.

Ed

Even if I've worked in them a few days?:tongue3:

Yeah, even if you've worked in them for a few days.

I really have absolutely no interest or desire in seeing you or anyone else on the BB without britches, coveralls, a robe, tunic, toga, a dress or something somewhat remotely comparable to cover the nakedness.

Ed

 

[EdSutton]

Nice dodge, but the dress, appropiate (sic) dress, would have a greater impact than a woman witnessing in a pair of pants.:thumbsup:

Frankly, I'm pretty sure the members of the local Amish group in my area have less impact, in what I would consider a positive manner, than do some female members of my own church who may be wearing a pants-suit or slacks, as a portion of their attire.

I have yet to meet the first individual, in my area, who says they were 'impacted' to listen to a gospel presentation, based on whether some female was wearing a dress or 'pants' from our church. I do know of a few who were positively 'impacted' when some of our church members have showed up, in our area, with food, chain-saws and trucks, including some women in pants, after the recent ice storm and with bringing hot meals to those who were yet without electricity, and the men cleaning up the fallen limbs from trees.

There has also been a positive "impact" when we have put together 'disaster relief teams' that have already made several trips to the Greater new Orleans area and others, after natural disasters, such as Hurricane Katrina.

Likewise, some are positively 'impacted' when some of our members put together the 'backpacks' for a ministry to the students of some of the less advantaged and/or less fortunate families in our local school, which is done on a weekly basis. (BTW, the school gives the names of who may need these, and also passes them out, not just our church members.)

I have yet to hear of the first individual who actually questioned the attire of any on any of these crews.

Ed

 

[Salamander]

For someone who is so against women in pants you sure seem to know a lot about the subject. Perhaps you have an unhealthy obsession.

Perhaps you have just tried to slander my person.

I "know" so much about this subject because it is a "hot-topic" in the IFB realm and needs addressing.

One of my preacher friends has this remark to those preachers who DON'T deal with the subject, "They like it, that's why!"

I wonder, do you "fit" into the catagory of "women in pants likers"?

 

[Salamander]

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there was no personal attack [snipped]

 

[Salamander]

So, as a man, you know that women are obsessed with how their backside looks?? That's interesting.

You've never met THIS woman because, I don't care how my backside looks. That's because I have no backside - so I don't really care what it looks like. Skirts - pants - my riding breeches - they all look the same. I'm certainly not obsessed with it at all.

Apple-bottms - I've never heard of them. I'm wearing Lee jeans right now - the kind with the tummy control. It does nothing for my rear but it certainly helps this post 4 pregnancy and 4 c-section belly.

OK, so [personal attack snipped]