Would you support this political party?

[church mouse guy]

Moses wrote Gen. 9. The was an ancient near East during his time and the “blood avenger” question was a prominent feature of the Hebrew people.

The case concerning the woman caught n adultery is a death penalty case. It is the incident where Jesus changed the OT law concerning the implementation of the death penalty. No longer do the two or three witnesses implement the death penalty, it is the one without sin.

Saul/Paul conducted his persecution to the death of Christians under the authority of the Sanhedrin: the ruling body of the Jews. It was murder, nevertheless, unless you believe the killing of Christians is not murder if a government sanctions it.

Moses was a prince of Egypt, but if you hold the Gen. 9 passage presents an absolute establishment of the death penalty for murder, Moses is not exempt because he was a prince of Egypt.

peace to you

Moses merely wrote the history handed down to him. There was no ancient near east in Noah's day. The commandment came from God, not Moses. Furthermore, Moses is not even the author of the Mosaic Law but God is. You are echoing higher criticism.

Genesis 9:6 deals with the death penalty for murder only. Period. Adultery is not murder.

As you imply, Saul had legal authority. He also operated under Roman auspices so your example does not make sense.

You also downplay the status of Moses as an Egyptian prince and general. It is as if you were saying that Nimrod did not have tyrannical powers. Moses could not have been convicted. He fled to Midian because he renounced Egypt. His renunciation affected his legal status but upon his return to Egypt he faced no criminal charges for murder so your conclusions are again amiss. There is no legal change from Noah to Egypt. And there is no legal change from Mt. Sinai and Jesus clarified that he came to fulfill the law and not overthrow it.

 

[canadyjd]

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I guess that I would execute abortionist doctors among others.

Your continued effort to ignore the murders committed by Moses, Paul and others on the basis they were were sanctioned by government or not brought by government is undermined by your willingness to execute doctors engaging in government approved abortions.

You are in conflict with yourself.

peace to you

 

[church mouse guy]

Your continued effort to ignore the murders committed by Moses, Paul and others on the basis they were were sanctioned by government or not brought by government is undermined by your willingness to execute doctors engaging in government approved abortions.

You are in conflict with yourself.

peace to you

You do not have the facts on your side so your accusation is baseless. You do not believe that God gave the law to Noah. You say that Moses picked it up in Midian or somewhere from the near east and ascribed it to Noah. That's classic higher criticism. I believe that God commanded the death penalty for murder and I would execute abortion doctors if the law could be amended.

 

[canadyjd]

You do not have the facts on your side so your accusation is baseless. You do not believe that God gave the law to Noah. You say that Moses picked it up in Midian or somewhere from the near east and ascribed it to Noah. That's classic higher criticism. I believe that God commanded the death penalty for murder and I would execute abortion doctors if the law could be amended.

Thanks for the conversation.

peace to you

 

[church mouse guy]

Thanks for the conversation.

peace to you

It was a waste of your time, unfortunately. Moses rejected the riches of Egypt and that would imply the near east also. The Jews were more advanced than the Egyptians and other nations in Mesopotamia so they were sent to the Nile to save humanity when the Ice Age ended 3600 years ago and worldwide drought caused famine. I suppose the warm weather melted the ice causing warmer temperatures but causing drought. It was the Jews who saved humanity. So I disagree that Moses would look to the barbarians for wisdom. In fact, that is why I disagree with you 100%.

 

[canadyjd]

It was a waste of your time, unfortunately..... So I disagree that Moses would look to the barbarians for wisdom. In fact, that is why I disagree with you 100%.

You are disagreeing with the straw man you invented because I never said anything like that.

But you are correct that I’m wasting my time trying to have a meaningful conversation with you.

Once again, thanks for the conversation.

peace to you

 

[KenH]

I think of them as a radical liberal Christian organization.

I think of them as a cultural conservative Christian political party. Just depends on what angle one is viewing the party through.

Good discussion. Appreciate it.

 

[canadyjd]

I think of them as a cultural conservative Christian political party. Just depends on what angle one is viewing the party through.

Good discussion. Appreciate it.

What do you think of their economic platform?

peace to you

 

[KenH]

What do you think of their economic platform?

The foundation of their economic platform is distributism, an alternative to capitalism and socialism. I have a book on the subject I am hoping to read before the election:

Toward a Truly Free Market: A Distributist Perspective on the Role of Government, Taxes, Health Care, Deficits, and More, by John C. Medaille.

 

[canadyjd]

The foundation of their economic platform is distributism, an alternative to capitalism and socialism. I have a book on the subject I am hoping to read before the election:

Toward a Truly Free Market: A Distributist Perspective on the Role of Government, Taxes, Health Care, Deficits, and More, by John C. Medaille.

After you read it, I hope you start a thread to discuss it.

The platform doesn’t go into details on how the transition to a “distributive” economy would effect our current system, but it seems to be an astonishing shift that would do great harm.

peace to you

 

[KenH]

Cultural conservative writer at The American Conservative expects to vote for Brian Carroll.

 

[KenH]

"I’ve been agonizing for a while over my presidential vote this November. When I looked at the Louisiana ballot, I was surprised to see the American Solidarity Party candidates — Brian Carroll and his running mate Amar Patel — on the presidential line. There are several people I know somewhat and respect — Leah Libresco, Fordham professor Charlie Camosy, Tara Thieke — who are enthusiasts for the ASP, and even active in the party."

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