Yea, Hath God Said...?

[Aaron]

Cynic said:
Then the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it (Genesis 2:15).

Is it implied here that the man kept and cultivated the whole garden, incuding the part which had the tree from which he could not eat?

No, that is not the implication at all. What is implied is that the man was to do all that would promote the welfare of the garden according to God's precepts.

The Scriptures speak of those who are "unskilful in the word of righteousness," (Heb 5:13). No one can gain insight by the mere reading of the Scriptures, but by doing them, Jn 7:17. It is those who have their senses exercised to know good and evil (Heb 5:14) who can rightly discern the implicit meanings as well.

[ April 29, 2002, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[ChristianCynic]

OK, explain how you would caretake of someone's fruit orchard and not touch a particular tree with inviting ripe fruit, which would hang the branches heavily down.

"Scriptures speak of those who are "unskilful in the word of righteousness," [Heb 5:13]. No one can gain insight by the mere reading of the Scriptures, but by doing them"

Then do them. To avoid the touching of the possibility of lust, gouge out your eye-- Matthew 5:29.

Matthew 7:17-- "Even so, a good tree produces good fruit; but the bad tree produces bad fruit."

Binary question: Was the Tree of Life a good tree or a bad tree?

 

[Aaron]

Cynic asked:
Was the Tree of Life a good tree or a bad tree?

It was a good tree. "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good," Gen 1:31. But I think you mean the tree of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, don't you? It was good, too (Gen 1:31).

Cynic said:
To avoid the touching of the possibility of lust, gouge out your eye-- Matthew 5:29.

This verse proves my point. What is implied by this verse? Those who are "unskilful in the word of righteousness" are apt to go to extremes.

[ April 29, 2002, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[Larry]

Matthew 5:27-28
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart

1 John 3:15
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

There is a difference between anger and hate (as someone pointed out on this board about a year ago) but I think 1 John 3:15 may be applicable to this discussion.

Just noticed, the next verse supports Arron's notion
1 John 3:16
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

Perceive…imply what do y’all think?

 

[ChristianCynic]

< To avoid the touching of the possibility of lust, gouge out your eye-- Matthew 5:29... This verse proves my point. What is implied by this verse? >

Proves what point? The parallel of the devil telling Eve she will really die, and you saying we should not really gouge out our eyes?

 

[Aaron]

I don't know which version you're reading, but it wasn't the Devil that told Eve she would die. Or are you just trying to be cute?

I am weary of your cynicism. It seems a root of bitterness has taken hold in your heart. I hope you will forgive the person or people responsible for your disillusionment. First of all for your own good; second of all so that we can engage in some meaningful exchanges.

[ May 01, 2002, 01:17 AM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[ChristianCynic]

< I don't know which version you're reading, but it wasn't the Devil that told Eve she would die. >

I mistakenly left out the word NOT. That's like remembering everything to take to the ball game except your ticket.

< I am weary of your cynicism. >

My cynicism makes you weary, does it? That's so disheartening! But I'm sure you empathize with that, considering the things you're cynical about. And I agree there are plenty of targets.

 

[Aaron]

Originally posted by ChristianCynic:

I mistakenly left out the word NOT. That's like remembering everything to take to the ball game except your ticket.

My apologies. I tried to reply to your post but I wasn't sure what you were saying.

It didn't occur to me that it was a typo.