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Salty

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Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. Psalms 127:1.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen-Hebrews 11:1.
So, are you going to answer Johns question. It appears the answer would be yes or no
 

John of Japan

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Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. Psalms 127:1.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen-Hebrews 11:1.
I can quote verses too. Big deal.

"And David sat between the two gates: and the watchman went up to the roof over the gate unto the wall, and lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold a man running alone" (2 Sam. 18:24).

"Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight" (Ps. 144:1).

Jesus was His own security team. He used violence to drive the crooks out of His house: "12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves" (Matt. 21:12-13).
 

KJB1611reader

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Can you not force the Catholick, world defintions into the word 'saint?' Saint is anyone that is saved, trusted Jesus' atonment for their sins. Corinthians were saints too..
 

Salty

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So, are you going to answer Johns question. It appears the answer would be yes or no
Oseas3 has made several posts since I asked this question
Evidently Oseas3 does not want to answer my simple question.
 
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Oseas3

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I can quote verses too. Big deal.
"And David sat between the two gates: and the watchman went up to the roof over the gate unto the wall, and lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold a man running alone" (2 Sam. 18:24).
Oh thank you for your reply. I work only with the Word of the only GOD, my GOD.
Big deal, say you sarcastically, however, it is good to quote verses of the Scripture, as you did it, for me the Word is GOD(John 1:1), GOD Himself, the Father, Father of my Lord JESUS Christ, Self-executing, Self-executable, He spake, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast. The Word of GOD, is from everlasting to everlasting.
By the way, what you quoted, -> 2Samuel 18:24- , was written around year 2960 after Adam or 1040 BC, so in the END of the third Day, and The Word of GOD is speaking of a man who did not know how to explain or tell the reality to the King of David of the facts that had happened, right?
"Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight" (Ps. 144:1).
Yes, as you know,, David was a valiant warrior, but he knew that without GOD he was nothing in his wars, so he said " I will sing a new song unto Thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto Thee. And David testified, saying: It is GOD that giveth salvation unto kings: who delivereth David his servant from the hurtful sword-Psalm 144:8-9.
Jesus was His own security team. He used violence to drive the crooks out of His house: "12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves" (Matt. 21:12-13).
So, by your words, you compare yourself to JESUS to justify what you do, insinuating that "JESUS used violence to drive the crooks out of His house." In fact, what you said about JESUS's behavior is simply in accordance with your human imagination, as someone familiarized with an environment of violence, so you express yourself as if JESUS were your equal.

Oh no one left the Temple injured or hurt, the whip was made only and only to create an environment of Authority, no one left the Temple with welts on their backs because there was not whippings, of course not. JESUS never used violence as you say He used. In the heart of JESUS never had violence like the common men. JESUS is GOD, understand? My Lord JESUS said:-> Learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Matthew 11:29. Amen. It's it.
 

Oseas3

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So, are you going to answer Johns question. It appears the answer would be yes or no
Oseas3 has made several posts since I asked this question
Evidently Oseas3 does not to answer my simple question.
My point is about what only the Word of GOD says, as I said to John, and he replied to my post as you can see in my post above. Now, the Word of GOD is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart, so for me the Word of GOD is enough, or sufficy-Hebrews 4:12-13. In my replies I call the Word of GOD, and it is the Word of GOD that answers by me. The Word is GOD, great mistery.

 

rockytopva

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Fathers - For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers… - 1 Corinthians 4:15

I was born in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. Having been brought up in the military we moved from town to town before settling into a place in Michigan. I have got to say the men references in my life were all father like figures and it was a privilege in having to known them.

My employer, Federal-Mogul, was initially started in Detroit, Michigan. During World War II they expanded out to Greenville, Michigan where they made copper alloy, and St John’s Michigan where they made aluminum alloy. The Blacksburg, VA plant where I am currently employed is a sister plant to the St John’s Michigan plant and was established in the early 1970’s.

When the Blacksburg plant was established many from the Michigan plants would come down to work as it is a warmer climate here. To describe these guys…

* Shirt and tie
* Professional
* Would stop and laugh if anyone was doing anything funny
* Pleasant spirited
* Very friendly and father like to me
* Ethical
* Honest
* Christian gentleman – Not at all rough
* Saint? I would agree with that
* I considered these guys remarkably smart

I hate to see this type of men taken out of my life, ending with my own dad a couple of years ago. So what to do? For me it is to model the personality set before me. Even if I do not see much of it today. Remembering the scripture...

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. – 1 John 4:1

So many spirits today are anything but what we would expect out of a saint.
 
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