You can be saved without the Gospel???

[Alan Gross]

I posted:




You posted:



Unless you can do better at answering the question, “Who, on this thread, can post exactly what is mean by “gospel”?” then why do you even respond?

I gave four examples of the use of “gospel” and your response is giving demeaning accusation of absolutely no value to you nor the thread.

Do you even know what “gospel” means and the uses in Scripture?

Please spend time contributing to the thread rather than proclaiming unfounded heresy.

Is it possible you do not know the definition and exampled use of “gospel” ?

We have yet to see.

I posted:




You posted:



Unless you can do better at answering the question, “Who, on this thread, can post exactly what is mean by “gospel”?” then why do you even respond?

I gave four examples of the use of “gospel” and your response is giving demeaning accusation of absolutely no value to you nor the thread.

Do you even know what “gospel” means and the uses in Scripture?

Please spend time contributing to the thread rather than proclaiming unfounded heresy.

Is it possible you do not know the definition and exampled use of “gospel” ?

We have yet to see.

I posted:




You posted:



Unless you can do better at answering the question, “Who, on this thread, can post exactly what is mean by “gospel”?” then why do you even respond?

I gave four examples of the use of “gospel” and your response is giving demeaning accusation of absolutely no value to you nor the thread.

Do you even know what “gospel” means and the uses in Scripture?

Please spend time contributing to the thread rather than proclaiming unfounded heresy.

Is it possible you do not know the definition and exampled use of “gospel” ?

We have yet to see.

Church Discipline protects The Churches Jesus Built from Heresy.

And insubordination and flesh-filled carnal defiance to Fullfill The Great Commission Given to her, would be cause for some intervention and admonition to repent of that Heresy, or bring it before the body for a vote, to be loosed from that fellowship.

Outside of The Kind of churches that Jesus Built, there are innumerable false churches and other non- Christian religions.

They all preach one thing.

Deny The Gospel.

The Gospel is one of the best kept secrets on Earth.

You, religiously, tell me I'm this and that, but you don't indicate that you are at all familiar with what The Gospel is.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Correct the paraphrase if I'm wrong:

"You can go to heaven without the Gospel???"

That's what you're really asking, right?

That’s right

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Really? How about children that die in the womb? Or people that are mentally challenged?


Your argument is horrible at best.

Exactly!!!

 

[kyredneck]

I think you missed the point. But if you want specific scripture that says infants are saved, you will not find one.

I wasn't referring to infants being saved, it was about infants going to heaven. So you do conflate 'saved' with going to heaven. I suppose 'lost' conflates with going to hell, right?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I wasn't referring to infants being saved, it was about infants going to heaven. So you do conflate 'saved' with going to heaven. I suppose 'lost' conflates with going to hell, right?

Wow...that is a profound observation!

Wasn’t Christ’s death on the cross enough to wash away the Origional sin and can a child reason enough to make a decision for God... cause isn’t that the real issue?

Speaking for all those who have agonized over this topic, this decision is up to God, leave it in His hands and trust in Him.

blessings to all

 

[Reformed1689]

I wasn't referring to infants being saved, it was about infants going to heaven. So you do conflate 'saved' with going to heaven. I suppose 'lost' conflates with going to hell, right?

I think you are splitting hairs.

 

[MartyF]

Speaks of Cornelius as a born again man before the Gospel reached him do to his convictions that the natural man does not have.

No, you need to read the entire passage. He had already heard the gospel before this time. 10:37-38

 

[MartyF]

You lay claim that we MUST BELIEVE!!!!

Meaning that our believes help God save us!!!


A sovereign God does not need our believes.

John 6:29 NLT
[29] Jesus told them, "This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent."

 

[kyredneck]

I think you are splitting hairs.

Nope. Not at all. It's you that is being sloppy with a word, sozo, that by no means is used always in the eternal sense, actually, more times than not it's intended in the temporal sense. It has everything to do with the OP topic.

I'm not splitting hairs. You're being sloppy.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[Alan Gross]

Nope. Not at all. It's you that is being sloppy with a word, sozo, that by no means is used always in the eternal sense, actually, more times than not it's intended in the temporal sense. It has everything to do with the OP topic.

I'm not splitting hairs. You're being sloppy.

Have you been 'saved', from Eternity Past?
When you were Elected?

Is that when you became a 'child of god'?

...
I've asked other Pb 5 times.
Thus, just asking.

 

[agedman]

Church Discipline protects The Churches Jesus Built from Heresy.

No doubt. agree

And insubordination and flesh-filled carnal defiance to Fullfill The Great Commission Given to her, would be cause for some intervention and admonition to repent of that Heresy, or bring it before the body for a vote, to be loosed from that fellowship.

No doubt. Agree

Outside of The Kind of churches that Jesus Built, there are innumerable false churches and other non- Christian religions.

No doubt. Agree

They all preach one thing.

Deny The Gospel.

No doubt. Agree

The Gospel is one of the best kept secrets on Earth.

Not true.

"The heavens proclaim his righteousness, and all the peoples see his glory." Ps. 97:6

The church was the mystery according to Paul, not the gospel. As Paul states in Ephesians 3

"4By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel, 7of which I was made a minister, according to the gift of God’s grace which was given to me according to the working of His power."​

You, religiously, tell me I'm this and that, but you don't indicate that you are at all familiar with what The Gospel is.

Not true.

But, yet when I ask of you, you have yet to bring either definition nor example to this thread.

The Gospel was never a mystery, but the church was.

Because you haven't given what you consider is the gospel and examples, there is little more to discuss, for all your opinions are of the substance of a vapor.

What exactly the word "gospel" means, and examples of how the word is used in Scriptures is vital to understanding.

Can you not provide such understanding?

 

[Alan Gross]

No doubt. agree



No doubt. Agree


No doubt. Agree



No doubt. Agree



Not true.

"The heavens proclaim his righteousness, and all the peoples see his glory." Ps. 97:6

The church was the mystery according to Paul, not the gospel. As Paul states in Ephesians 3

"4By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel, 7of which I was made a minister, according to the gift of God’s grace which was given to me according to the working of His power."​

Not true.

But, yet when I ask of you, you have yet to bring either definition nor example to this thread.

The Gospel was never a mystery, but the church was.

Because you haven't given what you consider is the gospel and examples, there is little more to discuss, for all your opinions are of the substance of a vapor.

What exactly the word "gospel" means, and examples of how the word is used in Scriptures is vital to understanding.

Can you not provide such understanding?

Is there some kid around that can search it, for you?

 

[Reformed1689]

Have you been 'saved', from Eternity Past?
When you were Elected?

Is that when you became a 'child of god'?

...
I've asked other Pb 5 times.
Thus, just asking.

I doubt you will get a straight answer on this from PB's. Their theology is not biblical.

 

[agedman]

I doubt you will get a straight answer on this from PB's. Their theology is not biblical.

Why would you think I was a primitive Baptist?

 

[agedman]

Is there some kid around that can search it, for you?

What is this?

Are you incapable, and yet would dare proclaim what you have toward me?

Surely you have something credible to offer other than proclamations of dismissal and discredit.

Maybe you don’t.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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