You have country, rock, or other similar music? Ditch it!

That still doesn't answer the question of whether you guys believe you should ditch all TV and movies, and whether you have yourself followed this advice.

 

But, its secular entertainment, which is part of your argument against secular music... PLUS, even if they are family movies, they do in fact have a sound track, and I bet that sound track is usually secular music. So, if you truly believe in what you are saying, you'd quit watching those evil family movies with its evil secular music. I'm going to guess that you're not going to though. Do you tell your kids to plug their ears when they start playing a song? No, of course you don't, that would be ridiculous, yet, it's about on the same wavelength as your advice.

As far as asking questions about Noah, since when is that a bad thing? Everybody should ask questions. If you can't handle a few questions or have the guts to ask a few yourself, you're not as firm in your beliefs as you think.

 

1 John 2:15-16 does not condemn specific genres of music, but things that promote:
-the lust of the flesh
-the lust of the eyes
-the pride of life.

Sorry, spauzado, you can't claim an entire genre of music does this. There are certainly artists and songs that do in each category of music...but not all, which negates your opening admonition.

I'll repeat one of my earlier posts, because I don't think anyone dealt with it:

 

Just wondering, do you question the salvation of everyone who disagrees with you? I'm glad to see that you know everyone's heart so well. You seem so concerned with what others may or may not be doing wrong, when do you find time to worry about the state of your own heart?

Corndogggy, keep in mind that not everyone on the BB believe the same things.

 

:thumbs: well said

 

I am unsure if this entire conversation is in regards to types of music to be used in worship or about music in general.

I would agree that there are certain types of music that do not belong in the church. Secular music has no place whatsoever in the worship of our Lord. However, as far as entertainment goes, so long as it's clean fun, I can see nothing wrong with the type of music we choose to listen to as part of our everyday lives.

I listen to classic country much of the time when I'm in my truck. The rest of the time I am typically singing church hymns to myself.

If any and all secular music truly is unscriptural, no matter the time, then I suppose we ought to all forget the evil "A-B-C song", the satanic Star Spangled Banner, and other such irreverent songs as well.

 

Read the OT, friend. Music was for worship, but also for relaxation. Check out David and Saul.

Do you really think music isn't art? that's almost funny.

Can music not be enjoyable? If you hear a great classical piece of music, and find yourself humming along, tapping your toe, are you sinning, because "your flesh enjoys it?"

Once again, notice that we are to avoid things that stimulate:
-the lust of the flesh
-the lust of the eyes
-the pride of life

Do a word study on this. You're trying to make it mean more than it does.

If I enjoy something, that does not necessarily mean it is "lust of the flesh" material.

Besides, the proof's on you: you made an outlandish claim in your OP--that all Christians should ditch any and all secular music because it is evil. You have failed in showing scriptural proof to back up that assertion.

Should a musician do everything for God's glory? Absolutely. Does God have to be the subject and object of any song written? Absurd. You ever sing "happy birthday" to anyone? How about the ABC's? They don't honor God--because they don't mention Him (your reasoning).

If you feel you should stay away from secular music then by all means follow your convictions. But there's a big difference between the statements,

I am not going to do that because it's against my convictions,

and

You shouldn't do that because it is sinful.

My challenge has been staying on task in responding to you. Your assumptions are so full of holes, logically, exegetically, and factually, that I'm having trouble staying on subject.

 

Gene was a major influence on modern christian music. It was a sad day when I heard of his passing.

 

My Pastor told me that until I gave up playing in bars, I could not participate in the music ministry at church. He used the scripture that talks about "be ye separate from the world" - I am at work and cannot
quote its location right now, no Bibles allowed in here.

So I have given up playing in bars so I can serve God with my music. Now I realize that bars are the very essence of "the world" and I was providing the entertainment to draw people into dens of iniquity, to drink heavily and to act lewdly.

 

I guess I'm pretty lucky in that my pastor is supportive of me. Our church is very small, so I'm the piano player right now.

Most of the people in our church have come out to see me play, either in bars or at fundraisers, which is 90% of what we do these days.

They see for themselves that the music I play isn't sinful. It isn't bad. I don't act in any way that anyone could consider "sinful". So, they're OK with it.

We really are pretty "G" rated.

If that's your conviction, then you're to be commended for following it.

I doubt very seriously that any of the bars I play in could be considered "dens of iniquity". We must be playing different kinds of bars, because for the most part, the people we see are pretty well behaved.

I take it on good faith that the people who come out aren't going to get drunk and "lewd". So far, my faith in them has paid off.

Because of the music we play, that just isn't the kind of crowd we draw.

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