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  1. AITB

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    Oh, sorry, I didn't know that... [​IMG]

    Anytime...although I am having people come stay with me starting today, over the next two weeks - it's bound to affect what time I have.

    Maybe we should take this to private e-mail - if you're ok with that. My e-mail address is in my profile. If you write I WILL NOT do anything with your address and what you write, except reply privately to anything you send me, I promise...

    Of course I might be lying but hopefully not :D

    Helen/AITB [​IMG]
     
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    Hahaha Helen, I'm not worried about you.

    How about we let it go this weekend. I'll work on an e-mail to you and if you'd like we can discuss. OK?

    Have a nice weekend with your family. [​IMG]

    Diane
     
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    Sounds great, Diane!

    Take your time over the e-mail cuz I have family here for the next 2 weeks now...most of them are arriving in a week, to stay a week; but I picked up my Dad from the airport today [​IMG]

    in Jesus' love
    Helen/AITB [​IMG]
     
  4. GH

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    okee dokee.

    And yes, In Jesus' love, Diane [​IMG]
     
  5. GH

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    Dear Tuor,

    You wrote:

    Just because this concept doesn't agree with the voice that you hear, doesn't mean it is not true. It just means that you hear another voice than Jesus'.

    I reply:

    This is the Voice of Jesus that I'm hearing:

    Edward Perronet – 1779

    ALL HAIL THE POWER OF JESUS’ NAME

    All hail the power of Jesus’ Name! Let angels prostrate fall;
    Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Let highborn seraphs tune the lyre, and as they tune it, fall
    Before His face Who tunes their choir, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Before His face Who tunes their choir, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Crown Him, ye morning stars of light, Who fixed this floating ball;
    Now hail the strength of Israel’s might, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Now hail the strength of Israel’s might, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Crown Him, ye martyrs of your God, who from His altar call;
    Extol the Stem of Jesse’s Rod, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Extol the Stem of Jesse’s Rod, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Ye seed of Israel’s chosen race, ye ransomed from the fall,
    Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Hail Him, ye heirs of David’s line, Whom David Lord did call,
    The God incarnate, Man divine, and crown Him Lord of all,
    The God incarnate, Man divine, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Sinners, whose love can ne’er forget the wormwood and the gall,
    Go spread your trophies at His feet, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Go spread your trophies at His feet, and crown Him Lord of all.
    Let every tribe and every tongue before Him prostrate fall
    And shout in universal song the crownèd Lord of all.
    And shout in universal song the crownèd Lord of all.
    [John Rippon added this verse in 1787]
    O that, with yonder sacred throng, we at His feet may fall,
    Join in the everlasting song, and crown Him Lord of all,
    Join in the everlasting song, and crown Him Lord of all!

    Remember my post on some or all? I choose all.

    If this is a half-truth then so be it.

    Praise to You Lord Jesus Christ!! For I can do NOTHING without You.

    Peace, Diane
     
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    If this is a half-truth then so be it.

    If it is a half-truth, then the voice you hear is not God's.
     
  7. GH

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    For I can do NOTHING without You......is a half-truth?

    Jhn 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

    Exd 9:4 And the LORD shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt: and there shall nothing die of all [that is] the children's of Israel.

    Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, [and] there is nothing too hard for thee.

    Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

    Jhn 6:12 When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.

    Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

    Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.

    Jhn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

    Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

    Luk 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

    Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is KIND UNTO THE UNTHANKFUL AND (TO) THE EVIL.

    Hbr 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing [that is] not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

    Peace, Diane

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    Dear Tuor,

    I don't want to sound like I'm picking on you, but I remembered that you are a "context" person so I thought I'd tell you the context of my recent post:

    I AM WEAK AND HE IS STRONG.

    Would you say that this is a half-truth? And would you turn it around to say that He is weak and you are strong?

    I don't want to put words into your mouth, I'm just trying to understand.

    For what do I have that hasn't been given to me - as Paul said to the Corinthians.

    Peace, Diane
     
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    When I say context, I mean the scripture itself, not what you saying.

    If you look at your list of scripture, they are all just single sentences without any context about what is being dealt with.
     
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    Tuor,
    Can You Define Specifically with Scripture..What Do You Call A Half-Truth ?.and What Observations have you Seen Within The Posts Of GH or ME2 that Prove Your Conclusions.

    Me2
     
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    GH posted as Biblical support for her position of universal salavation these scriptures:

    John 6:37 All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me.

    John 6:39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing....


    John 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.

    Here is John 6:35-65
    The truth is that God is God over all. The half-truth is that therefore everyone is getting saved. The full truth on this issue is that some have been granted belief, some have not. The proof for that is that Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe.

    Matthew 7:13-14
    Yes Jesus is Lord. Who is saved and who is not is all in accordance to God's will, but this does not guarantee that everyone is going to be found righteous. According to Jesus most people aren't going to be found righteous. Most people are on the road to the White Throne Judgement.
     
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    Hi Tuor,

    For your consideration, if NO ONE CAN COME TO JESUS UNLESS THE FATHER WILLS IT, what happens to the people HE HAS NOT WILLED TO COME?

    Do you see God's will on both sides? Jesus said, "YOU DID NOT CHOOSE ME, I CHOSE YOU."

    Tuor, you may think that you chose Him, but scripture says differently. HE willed it.

    He is sovereign - the Most High God.

    Rom 9:13 Just as it is written: "Jacob (the chosen) I loved, but Esau (the unchosen) I hated." What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy (the chosen), and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion (the unchosen)." Then it goes on to say that God will have mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He HARDENS whom HE WANTS to harden.

    That's full truth.

    In Jesus' Love, Diane

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    Hello Tuor,
    First Of All..My Computer Ate My First Reply (Aaargh!)
    The Reason Why I Ask These Questions Is That This Is Complicated. Multiple Things are Happening At Once..Jesus Is Speaking To People Whose Eyes And Ears Are Covered By God. He Knows That Many Dont Comprehend...He's Bread? Huh? Second..Hes Planting Seeds If Anything..Most Will Understand When Spirit Is Given At Pentecost. But The People Are Still God's People..They Follow His Law.

    Abraham Believed In A God Who Could Provide..He Didnt Think About Eternal Matters.
    It Was Counted To Him As Faith..To Believe In A God Who Provides...
    Was He Placed In Christ..Yes..Did He Know..No..Did He understand..No.

    Jesus Spoke To The People In Parables For A Reason..God Is The Teacher And All Lessons Will Be Understood...All Who Wish to Teach Themselves...Will Fail. Mat 13:10-17

    God draws Men..He Introduces The Law To Convince The Person Their A Sinner.
    God Introduces The Person To Jesus. God Imputes Righteousness.
    Hebrews Describes Babes In Christ..1 John Describes Children, Young Men, Fathers.

    Salvation Is A Process. A School with Many Levels of Progressive Levels of Change of Action and Reaction.

    When God The Father Imputes Righteousness When He Draws a Newly Adopted Child..It Is To Inroll This Child Into The School Of Justification, of Sanctification.
    A Babe In Christ Is "In Christ". Salvation Cannot Be Lost..They Now Begin A Growth Change.
    The Child Can Be Obedient or Disobedient. Depending on Wether They Want To Accept Jesus As Lord Or Not..Jesus As Savior is assurred.. As Lord.. The Carnal Self Has To Abdicate Control. He Is Where Many Have Shipwrecked Their Faith..Not Allowing Jesus To Become Lord... Submitting To Jesus As God, As Lord, As Sovereign Lord. or Dying To Self..

    This Is Where All Of Your Silly Interpretations ans doctrines and odd denominations are developed and followed....
    You Have Heard Of Carnal or Disobedient or Dead or Sleeping in Christ. As Far As These Persons Whom Do not Choose Jesus To Be Lord In Their Life...Their Faith Has Not Been Ressurrected From The Dead...They are "Dead In Christ".

    If One Submitts To Jesus as Lord..Their Belief Changes As Progresses...They Enter Into The Rest In Christ...Obedient, Spiritual, "Alive in Christ".

    Your Statement of Many Called, Few Chosen...This Is A Description Of The Family Of God In Christ...Buried Into The Life Of Christ..Some To Be Vessels of Wrath..Some To Become Vessels of Mercy...All Gods Children Within The Family or Faith In Christ. Disobedient and Obedient..Carnal and Spiritual..some Following Jesus As Lord...Some Not

    Some Following Jesus As Savior....Still Comprehending Faith and Not Yet Agreed That Jesus Is Lord...or Not..Not Proven To Follow Commandments..Love God, Love Man

    Some Following Jesus As Lord..Following Commandments of Loving God, Loving Man.
    Loving God Is Submitting To God..Heart,Mind,Soul and Spirit.
    Loving Man is Willing To Give Of Yourself To offer Forgiveness,Mercy and Love in a Selfless Manner.(do You notice mercy,forgiveness and love or strife and envy and condemnation on this board that contains "Brothers and sisters"?)

    But Were All Growing and will Continue To Grow "In Christ". All Are Saved yet all Are Different In A Preplanned Methodology. some Want To Bicker About Losing Salvation..This Is A School To Teach People To Become Like Jesus..To Take On His Mission Of Reconciling Others...We Are The Chosen Of The Creation only To BEGIN This Process.

    So Theres More Than One Plan Of Salvation Being Viewed. One Chooses Who Will Be The The Body Of Christ..(or Those Chosen To Be The Ministers of Reconciliation)...While The Majority Will Have Righteousness Imputed On Them At Death..But you Will Be Needed As The Witness or Example or Reconciler, To Teach them How To be Complete.

    The Difference In How GH and Myself Have Interpreted and Presented is that We Focus on Who God Is..His Nature Is Infinite Love.
    We Are Not Hung Up On Doctrinal Disputes But Want To Back Up And See Gods Plan As God Sees It. and It Appears To Many As Impossible...Now From Our View..What We See and Describe..Is It For Us and Our Benefit, Or People Who Are "Overhearing" our Opinions?..

    We Live By Faith and Not By Sight.

    Me2
     
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    GH,

    It is entirely possible that God chose that most would not enter the kingdom of heaven. Who are we to judge God?

    Tuor, you may think that you chose Him, but scripture says differently. HE willed it.

    I never said that I chose God. I just try to follow God's commands and do His will. Who exactly put that desire into me? I would say God is the one.

    Me2,

    Salvation Is A Process. A School with Many Levels of Progressive Levels of Change of Action and Reaction.

    I couldn't disagree more. Salvation is the judgement of God. Being a mature Christian is a process, but one need not be a mature Christian in order to be saved.

    some Want To Bicker About Losing Salvation..

    This is because they don't understand that Salvation will only be granted on the Day of the Lord. Until then, no one is granted salvation. I have started a thread on this issue.

    Your post is so far out there, that it makes me sad. Read your Bible and trust in the word that God has given us.
     
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    Hello Tuor,

    Some Extra Thoughts..Jesus Was Speaking About Himself Being The Bread Of Life...

    Man Was Designed To Be Joined With God....Interestingly, Man Is A Two Part Being
    Body And Spirit..We Exist On Two Palins At The Same Time..A Physical and A Spiritual.
    We Are Always Meant To Be A Human Being and A Spirit or Son Of God.
    A Little Higher Than Angels..Spirit Plus Physical....Jesus A Little Lower..Spirit Plus Human.

    When Decay Was Added To Creation..our Bodies Have To Be Replaced. Of Course Our Spirits have Become Impure and also Have To Be Replaced. Although The New Spirit Is Promised First. Our New Spirit Is Promised But Cant Be Joined Inside Us Til We Get Our New Bodies..After We Get Rid Of This One...

    By The Way Jesus Was What We Are To Become, The First Perfect Body and Perfect Spirit Of Man/God....A Human Being That Is Joined For Eternity With God.

    Eat Jesus Body, Drink His Blood..Well He Was Calling Himself The Bread Of Life or The Bread From Heaven....This Was Covenant Talk...A Covenant That God Is Making With Man..and The One And Only Original Was Right There..Yea Your Gonna Have To Eat My Flesh and Drink My Blood. In This Relationship..This Covenant, Your Getting A Body and Spirit Just Like Mine.

    Follow Me.

    Are We Going To Heaven Where Jesus and The Father Are...Were Spirit..But Were Also Human That Requires a Physical Body. Flesh and Blood Will Not Inherite The Kingdom Of Heaven..Thats Right, Its Spiritual..Youll Inherit It But You Cant Get There With Your New Body.
    Although The Kingdom Of Heaven Will Be "Inside You". Instant Communication...Instant Contact with Jesus And The Father and The Holy Spirit.

    So Will We Come Back Before The Earth Is Sin Free ?
    But You Can Bet Your Last nickel Were Gonna Be Humans Wherever Were At.

    Just Like Jesus..A Perfect Body..

    Drink My Blood, Eat My Flesh..The Joining Of God And Man.

    Now The Gates..Temples Got Gates..Interesting Analogy..Although Inside The Temple Are Seperated Meeting Areas. The Last Being The Holy of Holies. Where The High Priest Can Only Enter. The Citizens In The Temple Are All Gods People. Those Who are In Christ. Dead And Alive In Christ. (Dead, I Mean Still Living, But Disobedient or Carnal)The Last Gate Representing The Gate In Which Only Obedient Christians Can Enter (and Exit Also)..The Gate or Entrance To The "Kingdom Of Heaven".The Holy of Holies. Only Those Submitting To The Lordship Of Jesus Christ. They Are Capable Of Standing In Front Of God. (Like A High Priest.) No Carnal or Disobedient Christian Can Enter Through This Gate Until They Submit Unto God 100% and Are Capable Of Allowing God To Love Man Through Them. Or Else They Would Not Enter Into Gods Presents To Prey For Mercy and Forgiveness and Love For others.

    We Are All In Christ
    GH...Still Hearing Bells

    Me2
     
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    Man Was Designed To Be Joined With God

    What scriptures led you to this conclusion?

    We Are Always Meant To Be A Human Being and A Spirit or Son Of God.

    According to 1 John, some of us are sons of God and some of us are sons of the Devil.

    Me2,

    Unless you want to discuss scripture, I'm not going to reply anymore. You can go on all you want. If the administators and moderators decide that this stuff is inappropriate for a Christian site, then you will get kicked off the board.
     
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    Tuor,

    You wrote:

    It is entirely possible that God chose that most would not enter the kingdom of heaven. Who are we to judge God?

    I reply:

    Paul mentions a third heaven, so there's at least a first and a second. Maybe there's more, I don't know. Jesus said the Kingdom is within you. That means now. Only some do not know it yet - Awake O sleeper and let Christ shine on you. Let's go and tell all people that they may "KNOW HIM." Jesus came to give life and that more abundantly. That is the glorious gospel - it is finished. Arise and eat. Lift up your pallet and walk. Open your eyes and see. Open your ears and hear. These are Jesus' words, not mine.

    No, I wouldn't judge God, that would be presumptous.

    Rom. 11:32 For God locks up all together in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all. 33 O, the depth of the riches and the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How inscrutable are His judgments, and untraceable His ways! 34 For, who knew the mind of the Lord? or, who became His adviser? 35 or, who gives to Him first, and it will be repaid him? 36 seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all."

    You wrote:

    I never said that I chose God. I just try to follow God's commands and do His will. Who exactly put that desire into me? I would say God is the one.

    I comment:

    Great! I'm just saying - what about those whom He has not willed? Would a just and holy God destroy permanently souls that were made for His good pleasure - made in His image. He said "it is good" in the beginning. Did Adam ASK to be created? Did we ASK to be born into original sin because of Adam? No choices here, my friend. Paul said some are "chosen" vessels of wrath so that His glory should be known by the objects of His mercy (us). Rom 9:22

    How unscrutable are His ways! It's a paradox.

    "In Adam ALL died, in Christ ALL made alive."

    Just something to think about. [​IMG]

    Tuor, I noticed that you didn't comment on the scripture I quoted regarding God hardening some. Does this mean you agree?

    Peace in Christ.

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    We Are All In Christ
    GH...Still Hearing Bells

    You bet Me2. It's what keeps me sane in the upsidedown, paradoxical Kingdom of God.

    The mystery of His will. [​IMG]

    Rom. 11:25 For I am not willing for you to be ignorant of this secret, brethren, lest you may be passing for prudent among yourselves, that callousness, in part, on Israel has come, until the complement of the nations may be entering.
    26 And thus all Israel shall be saved, according as it is written, Arriving out of Zion shall be the Rescuer. He will be turning away irreverence from Jacob.
    27 And this is my covenant with them Whenever I should be eliminating their sins.
    28 As to the evangel, indeed, they are enemies because of you, yet, as to choice, they are beloved because of the fathers.
    29 For unregretted are the graces and the calling of God.
    30 For even as you once were stubborn toward God, yet now were shown mercy at their stubbornness,
    31 thus these also are now stubborn to this mercy of yours, that now they also may be shown mercy.
    32 For God locks up all together in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all.
    33 O, the depth of the riches and the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How inscrutable are His judgments, and untraceable His ways!
    34 For, who knew the mind of the Lord? or, who became His adviser?
    35 or, who gives to Him first, and it will be repaid Him?
    36 seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen!

    In His love, Diane
     
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    Hello GH,
    Your So Funny....How About. :big grin:
    Mat 13:34 All These Things spake Jesus Unto the Multitude in Parables; and without a parable he not unto them:
    Mat 13:35 That It Might be Fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,
    I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

    Reminds Me Of Something I Spoke Of Recently.. A Parable...
    or Maybe A New Parable..oh well its The Same ole' Story...
    Seems Like Everyone Is Poking Their Nose Where God Dont Want'em To:
    But If Their so Interested..The Ten Virgins..5 Foolish or CARNAL and 5 Wise..Spiritual.
    In Fact You Said Something Regarding This Recently, The Wise Virgins Lamps Full Of Oil. Or Could We Say Their "Vessels" Full Of The Holy Spirit.(or Maybe Full Of The Holy Ghost)..Sounds Like These Are Maiden Who Serve A Living God and Not One Of The Dead.........Not Waiting For Death or Even The "Rapture".....But Waiting For The Day Of The Lord...The Day They Enter into Heaven (In The Spirit) and Stand Face To Face With Their Living God...The LORD Jesus Christ..The Day Of Judgement..Some Might Regard This Day as One Day Of The Week While Others could Regard This Day As Everyday......Could We Say It Could Be A Living Attitude Where The Virgin Could Enter and Exit At Will.

    Jesus Spoke Of The Daily Life That Believer would Be Experiencing...Being Able To Enter Into Heaven and Stand Before Their Lord. To Ask What They Need.

    Or The Others..Lord,Lord..I Never Knew You..Not Jesus Is Not Sending Someone To Hell...At Least Not In The Afterlife...But Simply Acknowledging that They Are Not Recognizable...
    They Have Not Advanced Submitted To The Love OF God To Them..They Have Not Submitted To God To Live Through To Others..They Are Not Fully Recognizable Of Jesus..I Dont Know You..I Never Knew You..You Dont Belong at The Wedding Feast..Your Carnal Controlled Spirit Doesnt Belong In The Kingdom Of Heaven.....still Playing A Game Within Themselves Of Just Who Is In Control...Jesus As Lord.... Or Themselves.

    But This Parable Shuts The Door and The Foolish Are Left Still Trying To Buy Some Oil..
    That Was Such A Low Blow...Who Can Buy From God His Holy Spirit...sounds Like Jacob..
    I'll Do This If You'll Do That..I'll Promise I'll Stop Doing That If You Do...Deals Deals Deals
    Why Cant We Just Submit 100% Before A Holy God. A God Who Will Give Gifts To His Children For Free...and Not Buying and Selling and making Deals...
    How About In Revelation..The Church Of Laodicea..Another Low Blow.. A Counsel to Buy of Me Gold Tried In The Fire....Talking To These Folks On Their Level.....Deals

    Rev 3:17 Because Thou Sayest, I Am Rich, and increased with goods, and have need of Nothing; and Knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
    Rev 3:18 I Counsel Thee to Buy of Me Gold Tried in The Fire, that thou Mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
    Rev 3:19 As Many As I Love, I Rebuke and Chasten: Be Zealous therefore and Repent.
    Rev 3:20 Behold, I Stand At The Door, and Knock: if Any man hear my voice, and open the door, I Will come in to him, and will sup with Him, and He with Me.
    Rev 3:21 To Him That Overcometh will I Grant to Sit with Me in My Throne, Even as I Also Overcame, and am Set Down with My Father in His Throne....
    Rev 3:22 He That Hath An Ear, Let Him Hear what the Spirit saith unto The Churches.

    Wow....Sounds Like These Laodiceans Are Being Invited To Get Their Oil Lamps Filled With Oil
    and Join The Wedding Feast..... and Jesus Is Still Knocking At The Door..Maybe This Isnt Referring To The Rapture..But To All Christians Who Will Choose To Submit To Jesus And Simply Open The Door. or Even At The End..Have You Got Ears? or Does He Mean..Can YOu Understand This Parable.....and Understand The Secret Things of God..The Mysteries only Reserved For His Children To Hear..The Obedient..Spirit Filled Children.

    I Understand You GH..Every Expression.....This Is What Fellowshipping Is All About...Finding Others Like Yourself Who Live Life Day In and Day Out and Feel The Hurts You Feel And Have Received The Abuses Of The World That You've Received..We Need To Get together, If For Our Own Humaness to Know That We Are Not Alone As We Serve God..

    Its Interesting How God Says That You Have To Stand Before God And Ask For The Free Gifts That He Offers... To Get Anything Of God.....He Requires Total Submission...
    Even Understanding A Book That Was Written About Him.....
    Thats What I Love About My God...Everybody Is Treated The Same..Everybody!

    So Be Patient...Houses Built On Sand Fall Everytime...
    Like I Said To AITB...Watch To See If People Can Spiritually Interpret Parables..They Scream From The Rooftops...They Cant ? Their Lamps Are Empty Of Oil.. [​IMG]

    Me2
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    That Was Such A Low Blow...Who Can Buy From God His Holy Spirit...sounds Like Jacob..

    I reply:

    Oh poor Jacob, that crafty fellow, I wonder if he has read 1 John yet. [​IMG]

    Hello my friend, Me2

    I enjoyed your post which so beautifully portrayed God's mercy and love.

    So you got MY parable about sanity! He restores us to our right minds. Amen?

    You have to admit, the understanding the meaning of parables does take some digging and searching and a lot of seeking and asking. I thank Him for the priviledge to do so. We do this not for rewards - for He Himself is reward enough. All glory and honor to You, Almighty Father!

    I was looking at the parable of the lepers this past week. Which, I believe, fits in with this thread on knowing salvation because His word says so. And also illuminates what you've been saying - there are all different kinds of people and levels of understanding. All within the mercy of God.

    Luke 17:12 And, at His entering into a certain village, ten men, lepers, meet Him, who stand ahead.
    13 And they lift their voices, saying, "Jesus, Doctor, be merciful to us!"
    14 And, perceiving it, He said to them, "Go, exhibit yourselves to the priests." And at their going away, it came to be that they are cleansed.
    15 Now one of them, perceiving that he was healed, returns, glorifying God with a loud voice.
    16 And he falls on his face at His feet, thanking Him. And he was a Samaritan.
    17 Now, answering, Jesus said, "Are not the ten cleansed? Yet where are the nine?
    18 Were none found returning to give glory to God except this foreigner?"
    19 And He said to him, "Rise, go. Your faith has saved you."

    This one foreign leper recognized Jesus as a priest (our great High Priest) and returned to thank Him (doing what he was told). Now the others did what they were told too and received cleansing as well. But Jesus marks the one out who recognized Him. They all received the healing, but only one knew it and gave thanks to Jesus and worshipped Him. They all asked for and received mercy. All were cleansed.

    I love it when He annoints my head with oil - my cup overflows.

    But maybe you see something else? I'd like to see what God has given you on this parable.

    Me2 it's good to know you're out there in cyberspace expressing God's love. [​IMG]

    Diane (enjoying the still waters)
     
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