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You should vote for Trump 2020!
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Sai
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The most pro Israel president in the history of America, DJ Trump, has the full force of Satan opposing his reelection. From the collusion, to CV19 and now rioting, the god of this world desperately wants to prevent the nation of Israel from accepting Jesus Christ the Jewish Messiah as their one true God.
Jesus will not return until the Jews as a nation asks him to return, there will be no Second Coming until at the close of the Tribulation they confess their sin Isaiah 53, and pray Psalm 79-80, the prerequisites to his return!
Satan blinded the minds of men throughout history to perform acts of vicious hatred against the Jews much done in the name of “Christianity.” The current episodes are also the evidence of the deranged minds of men who are willing to accept all lies and behaviors in order to prevent another term of a pro Israel policy by the leading power in the times of the Gentiles, the USA.
Nothing that has occurred can be made sense of without the light of scripture to illuminate the absurdity.
23 per One Million population deaths in the world since December. That’s it. No one in their right mind shuts down the world for that number. Yet the world has been shut down.
A cop murdered a criminal in cruel form and now tens of thousands are raping and pillaging while cops stand by doing nothing and people are explaining it away with moronic excuses.
Yes my friends, vote for Trump or you will get the leader of the criminals you are watching destroy blue states, destroy the minds of the 16-30 year olds, you will be ruled by their choice.
Jesus will not return until the Jews as a nation asks him to return, there will be no Second Coming until at the close of the Tribulation they confess their sin Isaiah 53, and pray Psalm 79-80, the prerequisites to his return!
Satan blinded the minds of men throughout history to perform acts of vicious hatred against the Jews much done in the name of “Christianity.” The current episodes are also the evidence of the deranged minds of men who are willing to accept all lies and behaviors in order to prevent another term of a pro Israel policy by the leading power in the times of the Gentiles, the USA.
Nothing that has occurred can be made sense of without the light of scripture to illuminate the absurdity.
23 per One Million population deaths in the world since December. That’s it. No one in their right mind shuts down the world for that number. Yet the world has been shut down.
A cop murdered a criminal in cruel form and now tens of thousands are raping and pillaging while cops stand by doing nothing and people are explaining it away with moronic excuses.
Yes my friends, vote for Trump or you will get the leader of the criminals you are watching destroy blue states, destroy the minds of the 16-30 year olds, you will be ruled by their choice.
Sai
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I should’ve said I’m not sure of his Christianity. Same goes for Trump.
Brother, I know we need to support Israel as an honest to goodness military ally regardless of the Islamic World's reaction. We don't to our shamed.
I believe we must end abortion. I oppose abortion so much it is almost single issue to me. I see the same is true of you and support for Israel.
That said, you are reading calamity via nature as coming from Satan. That is unbiblical. God is the author of nature, Christ has all authority in heaven and on earth, God sits enshrined above the circle of the earth and we are but grasshoppers. Satan may be asking God for calamity as He did with Job, but we don't know that and adding to scripture is as dangerous as cutting out parts and burning them. Even if Satan is asking, God is granting for His ends.
I warn you on that in good faith. I did so too until I went on a painful journey to see God controls events, even if we have choice to put faith in Jesus Christ.
That aside, I think Christians need to be honest with ourselves. We use nonChristian candidates for political office for our policy ends and cast them aside when they fail to give us our will. That is a nasty thing to do to such people. It is Judgment when God does such in the bible.
I hope that we can nominate and elect candidates that will more than just make good policy, but call our nation back from the brink as Christians armed with the truth and the Gospel.
Sai
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Changed my mind. You’re back on my friends list. Probationary
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Again, taxes aren’t the point. The point about Bush was that he lied, and he lied big time. Yes, it was about taxes, but the point is that he repeatedly made such an emphatic point in making the promise—“Read my lips.” If that is your measure of trustworthiness, then you in fact have an extremely low standard.
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Now back to semantics and what you are essentially saying, albeit unintentionally. Originally, you specifically referred to “pastor in chief” and said, “Someone who shepherds the American flock of Christ's sheep….” Shepherding is what a pastor does, not a deacon. But what you are suggesting is more than semantical. And I think you do not realize the implications.
Recall that the rest of your sentence above was, “…while keeping the many packs of wolves from destroying everything when the inevitable calamity strikes.”
Evangelicals/Protestants could go all out and select their own pope, that is, head bishop, and be much like the Catholics. But you are taking it much further, insisting they set up such an ecclesiast to rule over the entire country. I hate to be the one to say this, because I don’t think you meant it this way, but that sounds dangerously like preparation for an antichrist agenda.
One of the good things about Trump is that he allows those who are righteous to give him advice, and then he also has the guts to carry it out. Another is that he does not hold sway over the masses. Too many hate him in the media, in academia, in entertainment. On the other hand, Obama was a scary one, and he ain’t gone yet.
I was a child at the time, so I don't know the exact circumstances. I will concede the field and agree that yes he lied. I hear from historians it was due to having not studied the issue enough. I'll leave it there, either way, it was his fault.
You're right that a shepherd is an elder. I should have understood that and said the president is best a politician who can at least serve as an associate pastor in a church. I concede that I made a mistake.
Now, I did not say we have only one Christian leader in the position of the president. That will lead to tyranny in this country. Especially, as you say, if someone else comes along to abuse this position. Now, IMHO the Antichrist is clearly a Eurasian Leader given he is the king of the North in Daniel.
That said, I believe saving this country is bigger than just politics. I was assuming all Christians would contribute to calling this country to repentance, not just the president.
However, I now see where you are coming from though. In reforming America using political leaders will we open up greater evils?
Here I think scripture is clear, it is better to be ruled by the godly, the more godly the better. The Old Testament makes this evident. Romans 13 also shows that rulers should reward righteous acts and punish wicked ones. Given scripture, I will say that it needs to be shown how a president of such character that he is able to be a Christian leader is a bad thing?
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I guess for me, it doesn't all hinge on politics to call this nation from the brink. I think it takes all bible believing Christians organizing to call good as good, evil as evil, to advocate for punishing or rebuking wicked behavior, blessing Christians and righteous behavior, and being open with evangelizing the nation by simply sharing the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ, no matter our station.
We may still fail. The Judea of Jesus Christ's day did not, given far greater witness than we can muster. Still, we must be faithful witnesses where God placed us.
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alexander284
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That still troubles me. Why has God placed so many immoral leaders in charge of America? Is it punishment for the average American's immorality? I just don't know.
I know the feeling. I voted for Obama as an unbeliever, terrible thing to do. I became a Christian four years ago after being a liberal Charismatic "Christian."
Just remember God is forgiving when we confess our sins, and Jesus Christ intercedes for us when we go astray. It doesn't surprise me that he prospered you.
Sai
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Sai
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Well I believe God put Obama on the throne. I’m hoping God puts Trump there again. The past months really have shown Satan’s opposition to Trump as a president for 4 more years. The seeds planted by Obama are bearing their works as those rioting were all in high school and college during his reign
RighteousnessTemperance&
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I will not make an effort to support it biblically, but I have heard more than one Christian leader say that a country, or a people group, gets the leader it deserves. That can be a bitter pill to swallow.
Last election, I hoped Trump would become president. I was not relishing the idea that we deserved someone like Hillary after Obama. Those who were did not react well at all when she lost, nor did she. There were plenty of people who hated Obama's presidency, but they did not react so unbecomingly.
Those that vote Dems into power are very deceived, and so are those who put their hope in man rather than God. I did not vote for Trump because I thought he was good, but because I thought that he would be willing to let God use him for good. I had no illusions that Hillary would have any such inclinations.