Your best three books (other than the Bible)

[evangelist6589]

Say is that book by Leiter advocating New Covenant Theology?

I don't fully agree with him either. He's post-trib which is good, but he still saw a 7 year tribulation (which I completely deny) and a personal antichrist (which I'm doubtful on). The biggest benefit from him though is his spot on understanding of Israel and the Church and the already/not-yet aspects of the Kingdom. Fantastic work.

Leiter is excellent and yes he is endorsed by Washer partly because, IRRC, he taught Washer. I highly recommend the Law of Christ to everyone. Great book. There will be parts where Dispys and Federalists disagree but that's OK, they both need to be corrected. :tongue3:



It is a rather unique name. Great book.

He seems to be a big fan of B.B. Warfield. His blog is basically a Warfield shrine...



Those excerpts make me really want that book!

 

[RLBosley]

Say is that book by Leiter advocating New Covenant Theology?

Not directly. The book is about one of the essential tenants of NCT, that the Law of Moses has been done away with and eclipsed by the Law of Christ, and what the Law of Christ means; but it isn't really advocating the whole system known as NCT. Make sense?

 

[evangelist6589]

Not directly. The book is about one of the essential tenants of NCT, that the Law of Moses has been done away with and eclipsed by the Law of Christ, and what the Law of Christ means; but it isn't really advocating the whole system known as NCT. Make sense?

What?? So he says using the moral law to show people their need for a savior is wrong? Yes the law has been done away with, but it can show people they are sinners.

 

[Jkdbuck76]

I hope you're doing well brother. You've been in our thoughts and prayers.

Thanks! I'm pretty sure the chemo got it (PET scan was clean). Gotta do radiation next.

I can't believe nobody has mentioned any of Joel Osteen's books on hair care products. smh

 

[RLBosley]

What?? So he says using the moral law to show people their need for a savior is wrong? Yes the law has been done away with, but it can show people they are sinners.

First, you mean the 10 commandments, not "the moral law." The OT never calls the Decalogue anything but the 10 words or the words of the (old) covenant. It is never called the moral law, that is a (bad) theological proposition from the middle ages. Truthfully, all of the Mosaic Law was moral as the Jews were under moral obligation to obey it. Also scripture never divides the Mosaic Law, that's why it's called the Law - singular - it's a unit.

Secondly, he never says that and neither did I - reread my previous post. In fact, he has an entire appendix on "The Lawful use of the Law" which discusses using the 10 commandments in evangelism as well as an FAQ which briefly touches on the topic.

His understanding, and I agree, is that we use whatever "law" the person knows to convict them of their need for a Savior:

For total pagans who know nothing of the scriptures we use the law of conscience - they have willfully violated their conscience in their sin and they know it. That is why in the New Testament you never see the apostles preaching the 10 commandments to gentiles in order to convict them of sin.

For Jews we use the Mosaic Law, as that is the standard they know is from God and they know they cannot live up to it.

For those who know the New Testament, we use the Law of Christ, that is Christ's standards and teachings - which is really what the Way of the Master does partially when they go to Jesus' teachings on anger and lust in place of Moses' commands against murder and adultery.

 

[quantumfaith]

First, you mean the 10 commandments, not "the moral law." The OT never calls the Decalogue anything but the 10 words or the words of the (old) covenant. It is never called the moral law, that is a (bad) theological proposition from the middle ages. Truthfully, all of the Mosaic Law was moral as the Jews were under moral obligation to obey it. Also scripture never divides the Mosaic Law, that's why it's called the Law - singular - it's a unit.

Secondly, he never says that and neither did I - reread my previous post. In fact, he has an entire appendix on "The Lawful use of the Law" which discusses using the 10 commandments in evangelism as well as an FAQ which briefly touches on the topic.

His understanding, and I agree, is that we use whatever "law" the person knows to convict them of their need for a Savior:

For total pagans who know nothing of the scriptures we use the law of conscience - they have willfully violated their conscience in their sin and they know it. That is why in the New Testament you never see the apostles preaching the 10 commandments to gentiles in order to convict them of sin.

For Jews we use the Mosaic Law, as that is the standard they know is from God and they know they cannot live up to it.

For those who know the New Testament, we use the Law of Christ, that is Christ's standards and teachings - which is really what the Way of the Master does partially when they go to Jesus' teachings on anger and lust in place of Moses' commands against murder and adultery.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

…Regardless of the actual Bible that God has given his church, biblicists want a Bible that is different. They want a Bible that answers all their questions, that tells them how to have marital intimacy, that gives principles for economics and medicine and science and cooking—and does so inerrantly. They essentially demand—in God's name, yet actually based on a faulty modern philosophy of language and knowledge—a sacred text that will make them certain and secure, even though that is not actually the kind of text that God gave.

Does he actually support his claims here, or does he just make a hit-and-run statement and expect them to be accepted as fact?

The truth is, the Bible is the best counseling text ever written. It tells us first, in essence, "You can't live life this without Me," and then proceeds how to tell us how, with and through Him, we can have that life in abundance.

If Smith doesn't believe that God's word covers the gamut of human trial, experience, affliction, and regeneration, then I don't believe he's actually read it.

My three are:
Ancient Christian Wisdom and Aaron Beck's Cognitive Therapy: A Meeting of Minds. Dr. Beck, the father of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, wrote a book designed to introduce his secular colleagues and the secular world to the truths of the Bible.
We Were Soldiers Once . . . and Young: Ia Drang-The Battle That Changed the War in Vietnam. General Moore described the introduction of Air Cavalry into modern warfare and its first real test.
Kingdom Man: Every Man's Destiny, Every Woman's Dream Dr. Tony Evans has written one of the best biblically based treatises on living out manhood as God intended.

 

[Iconoclast]

Thanks! I'm pretty sure the chemo got it (PET scan was clean). Gotta do radiation next.

:thumbsup::applause::thumbsup:

 

[evangelist6589]

First, you mean the 10 commandments, not "the moral law." The OT never calls the Decalogue anything but the 10 words or the words of the (old) covenant. It is never called the moral law, that is a (bad) theological proposition from the middle ages. Truthfully, all of the Mosaic Law was moral as the Jews were under moral obligation to obey it. Also scripture never divides the Mosaic Law, that's why it's called the Law - singular - it's a unit.

Secondly, he never says that and neither did I - reread my previous post. In fact, he has an entire appendix on "The Lawful use of the Law" which discusses using the 10 commandments in evangelism as well as an FAQ which briefly touches on the topic.

His understanding, and I agree, is that we use whatever "law" the person knows to convict them of their need for a Savior:

For total pagans who know nothing of the scriptures we use the law of conscience - they have willfully violated their conscience in their sin and they know it. That is why in the New Testament you never see the apostles preaching the 10 commandments to gentiles in order to convict them of sin.

For Jews we use the Mosaic Law, as that is the standard they know is from God and they know they cannot live up to it.

For those who know the New Testament, we use the Law of Christ, that is Christ's standards and teachings - which is really what the Way of the Master does partially when they go to Jesus' teachings on anger and lust in place of Moses' commands against murder and adultery.

Well said

 

[RLBosley]

Well said

Glad you think so, though I'm honestly surprised. (No offense meant, I just know you're a big Ray Comfort fan and that is pretty contradictory to his stuff.)

Pick up the book when you get a chance. It's a great read even if you disagree with New Covenant Theology.

 

[evangelist6589]

Glad you think so, though I'm honestly surprised. (No offense meant, I just know you're a big Ray Comfort fan and that is pretty contradictory to his stuff.)

Pick up the book when you get a chance. It's a great read even if you disagree with New Covenant Theology.

I do disagree with it. However I am not WOTM Only, I am WOTM Preferred and why I said well said.
I am accountable not to buy any new books at this time unless they are related to a SS class. I can only get books as gifts.

 

[RLBosley]

I do disagree with it. However I am not WOTM Only, I am WOTM Preferred and why I said well said.
I am accountable not to buy any new books at this time unless they are related to a SS class. I can only get books as gifts.

I gotcha. Well at least you are respectful. That's appreciated.

And good on you for sticking to a budget. If you have an amazon wishlist, I recommend putting that book on it for later purchase. All would benefit from it, even a misguided dispy. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[OnlyaSinner]

Too many from which to select, so I'm offering my choices from three categories, and rated probably by how often I re-read them.

--Biblical: Not By Chance - The Providence of God, by Layton Talbert. Faith-building (for me) descriptions of how God has used (and uses) people and events to accomplish His sovereign will. (2nd: Witness to Christ, Stewart Custer's commentary on Acts.)

--Fiction: Lord of the Rings, the classic quest, and though not a "Christian book", it portrays many Christian values as well as fine literary character from one who loved language. (2nd: Moby Dick)

--Nonfiction: The Year Long Day, by Ivar Ruud. This obscure and probably out-of-print book tells of one man's isolated stay on far northern Svalbard from late summer thru the next June , in crisp, stark (and occasionaly humorous) language. (2nd: The James Herriot books, especially since I just read the biography written by his son.)

 

[evangelist6589]

I gotcha. Well at least you are respectful. That's appreciated.

And good on you for sticking to a budget. If you have an amazon wishlist, I recommend putting that book on it for later purchase. All would benefit from it, even a misguided dispy. :smilewinkgrin:

I also thought Chosen by God would be a good buy but I just can't get every book.

But it's good to read. A former poster here boasted of not reading any books but the bible and so he never learned from the many God has gifted to teach the church.