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Your best three books (other than the Bible)

Van

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Evangelist said:
What three books (other than the Bible) have most influenced you and why?

During the period of my life, near the end of high school, and until I was about 25, these three books shaped my world view:

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer
Kennedy by Theodore C. Sorensen
Saints and Strangers by George F. Willison.​

I did not see how anyone could embrace the silly view of might makes right, but became far less secure when I realized a majority of people could be convinced that others are not our brothers under the skin. Shirer it explained to me.

I was not old enough to vote for Kennedy, but I was all for him as I listened and yes stood cheering in front of my TV, when he gave is inaugural address, you know the bear any burden speech. I know exactly where I was standing when I heard he had been killed.

As I grew out of the protective environment my parents had provided, I discovered everybody was not Christian. Many of these bullies, hooligans, and greedy thugs liked to push others around. So I was perplexed at how saints could work with non-saints and build a community of liberty where the wolves were held at bay. Saints and strangers explained that to me.
 
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Deacon

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That book on the Bible what does it say? Is it advocating liberal theology in sock of a Christian book? I don't know but felt uneasy with the amazon description.
Its a book that was written to make you uneasy.
From chapter 5, "Toward a Truly Evangelical Reading of Scripture" (pages 110-111)

…the weight of interpretive gravity needs to shift decisively and irreversibly in the hermeneutically Christocentric direction. The centrality of Jesus Christ and the gospel of reconciliation make sense of all of scripture. But we must also consider the meaning and relevance of various parts of scripture that do not clearly fit its gospel message centered on Jesus Christ—such as, for example New Testament passage that assume and grant the legitimacy of human slavery or say nasty things about Cretans. …

Unfortunately for some evangelical authors and publishers, once this Christocentric hermeneutic is grasped and embraced, more than a few of the popular books they write and publish will become sadly inappropriate and embarrassingly misguided. The Bible is not about offering things like a biblical view of dating—but rather about how God the Father offered his Son, Jesus Christ, to death to redeem a rebellious world from the slavery and damnation of sin. The Bible is not about conveying divine principles for starting and managing a Christian business—but is instead about Christ on the cross triumphing over all principalities and powers and so radically transforming everything we to be our business. Scripture, this view helps us to see, is not about guiding Christian emotions management and conquering our anger problems—but rather about Jesus Christ being guided by his unity with the Father to absorb the wrath of God against sin in his death and conquering the power of sin in his resurrection.

From chapter 6, "Toward a Truly Evangelical Reading of Scripture" (pages 127-128)

We ought in humble submission to accept the real scriptures that God has provided us as they are, rather than ungratefully and stubbornly forcing scripture to be something that it is not because of a theory we hold about what it must and should be. One of the strangest things about the biblicist mentality is its evident refusal to take the Bible at face value. Ironically, while biblicists claim to take the Bible with utmost seriousness for what it obviously teaches, their theory about the Bible drives them to try to make it something that it evidently is not. Presumably God knew what he was doing in providing his covenant people, through inspiration, with the written testimony of his redemptive work in history. Presumably God is confident—to speak in quite human terms—that the actual scriptural texts he has given his church are sufficient for communicating well the message of the gospel. ... (p 127)
…Regardless of the actual Bible that God has given his church, biblicists want a Bible that is different. They want a Bible that answers all their questions, that tells them how to have marital intimacy, that gives principles for economics and medicine and science and cooking—and does so inerrantly. They essentially demand—in God's name, yet actually based on a faulty modern philosophy of language and knowledge—a sacred text that will make them certain and secure, even though that is not actually the kind of text that God gave.





Robinson Crusoe - lessons on salvation and contentment

Uncle Tom's Cabin - being faithful to God no matter what the circumstances

Les Miserable - law and grace
All top shelf classics - Les Miserables is by far my favorite, I read portions of it at least every year!

The humility and sacrifice of the priest and his willingness to extend grace to the downtrodden thief contrasted with the lawman believing everything was created with order and justice which prevails over all. A Christian classic!

I recently attended the play at a New Jersey college and was highly impressed by their professionalism. My favorite song, surprisingly is by Javbert, the lawman.

There, out in the darkness
A fugitive running
Fallen from God
Fallen from grace
God be my witness
I never shall yield
Till we come face to face
Till we come face to face
He knows his way in the dark
But mine is the way of the Lord
And those who follow the path of the righteous
Shall have their reward
And if they fall
As Lucifer fell
The flame
The sword!


Rob
 

Jkdbuck76

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Growing up..... "2001: A Space Oddyssey"

"The Hobbit"

And then the Lord of the Rings Trilogy....that's three in themselves.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Its a book that was written to make you uneasy.







All top shelf classics - Les Miserables is by far my favorite, I read portions of it at least every year!

The humility and sacrifice of the priest and his willingness to extend grace to the downtrodden thief contrasted with the lawman believing everything was created with order and justice which prevails over all. A Christian classic!

I recently attended the play at a New Jersey college and was highly impressed by their professionalism. My favorite song, surprisingly is by Javbert, the lawman.

There, out in the darkness
A fugitive running
Fallen from God
Fallen from grace
God be my witness
I never shall yield
Till we come face to face
Till we come face to face
He knows his way in the dark
But mine is the way of the Lord
And those who follow the path of the righteous
Shall have their reward
And if they fall
As Lucifer fell
The flame
The sword!


Rob

Good selection
 

Rolfe

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English language:

1. The last of the Bush Pilots by Harmon Helmericks.

2. The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer.

3. Shelby Foote's Civil War series.

And... 4. Churchill by Roy Jenkins.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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For me....Will Durants series......."The Story of Civilization " with The Reformation, The Life of Greece & Caesar and Jesus that are 3 of the books I totally enjoy.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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English language:

1. The last of the Bush Pilots by Harmon Helmericks.

2. The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer.

3. Shelby Foote's Civil War series.

And... 4. Churchill by Roy Jenkins.

I am a history buff...is Churchill that good?
 

Rolfe

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I am a history buff...is Churchill that good?

I thought it was.

Started the first book of The Last Lion series, which is another Churchill biography. One hundred pages into it I had to opt for lighter reading (weight wise) due to being one-winged for a while. That was/is also good so far.
 

pinoybaptist

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Speaking of books does anybody know of one that describes ancient world and middle/near Eastern histories congruent to Biblical events ? For ex: when the exodus was happening what world shaping events were going on elsewhere ? say China or Mesopotamia or such ?
Will appreciate info.
 

Rolfe

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"The Call of the Wild" - It introduced me years and years to ago to classic literature. I read it almost every year to my students as a book that hopefully will do that for them. I practically have it memorized.

:thumbs:

Also enjoyed the Leatherstocking Tales series by James Fennimore Cooper.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I thought it was.

Started the first book of The Last Lion series, which is another Churchill biography. One hundred pages into it I had to opt for lighter reading (weight wise) due to being one-winged for a while. That was/is also good so far.

Thanks ....I want to study him in greater detail but I don't have much time these days.
 

asterisktom

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Speaking of books does anybody know of one that describes ancient world and middle/near Eastern histories congruent to Biblical events ? For ex: when the exodus was happening what world shaping events were going on elsewhere ? say China or Mesopotamia or such ?
Will appreciate info.

You might try the book I mentioned, Ussher's Annals. Especially the newer edition that has plenty of notes, cross references and appendices.

Several things I miss being here in China. One is my well-thumbed copy of this book, with my notes in many of the pages. It has been very helpful in calibrating "profane" history with Biblical.
 
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evangelist6589

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Good OP. Hard to choose but maybe I would go with:
1. Today's Gospel: Authentic or Synthetic (Chandry) - the first inkling that the consensus view on Christianity bears closer inspection.
2. Christologia (John Owen) - wonderful, perceptive - and wordy! exposition of the person and mission of Christ. Though I don't agree with all of his views Owen midwifed a lot of meditation on God's attributes and a desire to know God better.
3. Annals (Ussher, edited by Pierce) - the original work as well as the very careful editorial glosses and appendices of Pierce.

Well said. You know have you read the book Todays Evangelism by Ernest Reisinger? I have and its a good one.
 

evangelist6589

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I think you are referring to Fred's father, James (I believe that was his name). In the late 70s/early 80s Fred was a fellow student with me at BJU. We went out together on extension ministries. If memory serves David Jeremiah was also on this same extension. Interestingly, two very different theological perspectives - three, counting mine - possibly on the same ministry.

FWIW

David Jeremiah went to BJU???
 

Rolfe

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Thanks ....I want to study him in greater detail but I don't have much time these days.

Another, lighter read is Churchill By Himself edited by Richard Langworth. It is a collection of quotes.
 

RLBosley

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I do not agree with Ladd but at least he is biblical. However Leiter I hear is a good author. Washer has endorsed him.

I don't fully agree with him either. He's post-trib which is good, but he still saw a 7 year tribulation (which I completely deny) and a personal antichrist (which I'm doubtful on). The biggest benefit from him though is his spot on understanding of Israel and the Church and the already/not-yet aspects of the Kingdom. Fantastic work.

Leiter is excellent and yes he is endorsed by Washer partly because, IRRC, he taught Washer. I highly recommend the Law of Christ to everyone. Great book. There will be parts where Dispys and Federalists disagree but that's OK, they both need to be corrected. :tongue3:

Gotta be a son. Name is too unique.

It is a rather unique name. Great book.

He seems to be a big fan of B.B. Warfield. His blog is basically a Warfield shrine...

Its a book that was written to make you uneasy.

Those excerpts make me really want that book!
 
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