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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Conan said:
We have already attacked Russia through proxy war. Unfortunately, we will fight them to the last Ukrainian.
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The problem with the US and UK getting involved in these wars that have nothing to do with us, is that we invite trouble to our countries. Like 9/11 in the US and July 2005 here in the UK.

Putin is a mad man and responsible for the murder of many thousands. He should have been removed years ago
 
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xlsdraw

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agedman said:
I agree with the thinking that prophecy may bring a picture in this matter, we will all watch to see.

Russia defense rules are that only if they are attacked will they use nuclear weapons. Putin is incapable of "ordering" the use without cause that the commanders over the weapons agree are necessary reasons for use.

Also, I don't see our POTUS intellectually capable of rational response should Russia use such weapons.

Then there is the problem of both China and North Korea, so Putin does have a sold alliance to back his play.

Besides, it isn't missiles, it is the suitcase dirty bombs that will terrorize the typical American into fear and rational incapacity.

These are all my own opinions.

What are your thoughts?

Do you think that this will escalate to bring the Middle East into another blistering confrontation?

What of the Prophecy concerning the sun, moon, and stars. Would not such a conflict cause atmospheric changes?

What might we find in Scriptures concerning our opinions?
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It's all in Ezekiel chapters 36 through 39.

The removal of the World, and more specifically Islamic bullying and domineering of Israel, which the World currently politically goes along with, is crystal clear in Ezekiel chapter 36 if you pay attention to detail.

Gog/Russia has consistently backed the Islamic efforts to deprive the land of Israel from the Jews.

Bibi, throughout his tenures as Prime Minister, developed a human political repoire with Putin, appeasing Putin's prideful expectations.

The new Israeli government is a mix of a left/right/arab anti-Bibi coalition with the Globalist and alternate Prime Minister, Yair Lapid, openly criticizing Putin. Pricking his pride.

Islam is a Pride/hate based Supremacy political enterprise that is incapable of peaceful coexistence. It must domineer.
The current coinciding Ramadan and Passover is producing escalating conflict and Islamic rage because God has placed it in the Jews hearts to resist the Islamic domineering of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.

Just tune in to the news of Islamic nations and watch as the rage against Israel increases during this Eight days of Passover. Islamic Pride.

I believe that the hooks in the Gog-Magog Alliance jaws is Pride. Bringing them to their destruction when they move against Israel.

Ezekiel chapter 36 is the great "I Will" chapter in the Bible when God completely flips the political script on Earth.

This verse is telling when applied to the Gog-Magog Alliance war.

Proverbs 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

The burrs have been placed in the prideful saddles of Putin and Islam. Let's see if this is the time for God to bring the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 36 through 39.

God's Will be done.
 
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percho

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xlsdraw said:
Putin appears to be the right guy at the right time for fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39. Which is part of the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter 36.

I do not expect him to use nuclear weapons.

It is prophecied Ezekiel 38:4

"And I will turn thee back,"

There must be something to turn back from, and that may well be this Ukraine incursion.

Clearly, Tarshish and the young lions, are both surprised by what Gog does, when it turns towards Israel, and are not a deterrent to Gog's actions. IMO, the scriptures infer that Gog itself is drawn to do what it did not intend.

And lastly, the Lord will not come rule and reign for a Thousand years over a nuclear wasteland.

Nuclear weapons have proven to essentially be a loaded gun used to intimidate, terrorize, extort, and even stymie/deter military actions. Their actual use are impractical for the ingrained possessive nature of conquest entities.
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I think Ezek 38 and 39 are post a Thousand years.

I think 38:8 is the thousand years and then;
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. Rev 20:3
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
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xlsdraw

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percho said:
I think Ezek 38 and 39 are post a Thousand years.

I think 38:8 is the thousand years and then;
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. Rev 20:3
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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Nope. The Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 Gog-Magog Alliance nations are only specific nations from specific regions.

The post-millenium Gog-Magog war is an alliance of nations from all four corners of the earth.
 
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Conan

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SavedByGrace said:
problem is that I don't have an hour to listen to this
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Please don't cheat yourself out of the truth. I realize your British but in America both people on the right AND the left are starting to understand we are being lied to and the truth is censored. You need to see our goverments corruption. I beg you to watch when Scott Ritter comes on. He was the chief UN inspector and was right when the Bush and Clinton administrations were wrong. I beg you hear a little when you can. One day he will be eliminated and his first hand experience blacked out. Scott Ritters job for most of his life was to defeat Russia.
 
canadyjd

canadyjd

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Conan said:
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Pure propaganda. I watched all I could stomach. Just a few minutes.

First false claim “Russia allowed” Ukraine to maintain communications, including Zelenskyy video conferences. Those conferences continue to this day. If Russia could stop it, they would.

Second false claim: Russia came in with minimal force, not widespread artillery. Just a lie. They were shelling civilian populations from the get go.

Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true.

peace to you
 
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Conan

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canadyjd said:
Pure propaganda. I watched all I could stomach. Just a few minutes.

First false claim “Russia allowed” Ukraine to maintain communications, including Zelenskyy video conferences. Those conferences continue to this day. If Russia could stop it, they would.

Second false claim: Russia came in with minimal force, not widespread artillery. Just a lie. They were shelling civilian populations from the get go.

Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true.

peace to you
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Russian is proven to have gone in with minimal force. A mear 200, 000. To conquer them they would have had a 3 or 4 to one advantage. 200,000 is far less troops that Ukraine has. Russia could have cut those comunications easily. They did not because their not out to destroy Ukraines infrastructure. It totally supports what their saying. Hey, if Putin tried to take out their comunications but couldn't then they have lost and would have to pull out. I bet they don't. Their going to destroy the Nazis. We are sick to support Nazis . everthing he says supports the situation . the man was right before Gulf war two when he said Iraq didnt have weapons of mass destrution and he was right. None were ever found meaning we killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's on a lie. He is proven to be true when Bush and Biden are proven liars in gulf war two. Hey I was wrong to I totally supported Bush but I was wrong, the Iraqi leader didn't actually have them. Shouldn't we be punished for doing these things? Shouldn't we have not tried to surround Russia with weapons? Joe biden is going to fight to the last Ukrainian. You wait and see.
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Conan said:
Russian is proven to have gone in with minimal force. A mear 200, 000. To conquer them they would have had a 3 or 4 to one advantage. 200,000 is far less troops that Ukraine has. Russia could have cut those comunications easily. They did not because their not out to destroy Ukraines infrastructure. It totally supports what their saying. Hey, if Putin tried to take out their comunications but couldn't then they have lost and would have to pull out. I bet they don't. Their going to destroy the Nazis. We are sick to support Nazis . everthing he says supports the situation . the man was right before Gulf war two when he said Iraq didnt have weapons of mass destrution and he was right. None were ever found meaning we killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's on a lie. He is proven to be true when Bush and Biden are proven liars in gulf war two. Hey I was wrong to I totally supported Bush but I was wrong, the Iraqi leader didn't actually have them. Shouldn't we be punished for doing these things? Shouldn't we have not tried to surround Russia with weapons? Joe biden is going to fight to the last Ukrainian. You wait and see.
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before Putin is ever tried for "war crimes", justice will only be truly seen to be done, when Tony Blair and George Bush Jr, are tried and jailed!

Both Joe Biden and Boris Johnson are complete IDIOTS, in thinking that they have the right to get our countries involved, as we already are by proxy! I fear that Putin will strike back hard.
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Conan said:
Please don't cheat yourself out of the truth. I realize your British but in America both people on the right AND the left are starting to understand we are being lied to and the truth is censored. You need to see our goverments corruption. I beg you to watch when Scott Ritter comes on. He was the chief UN inspector and was right when the Bush and Clinton administrations were wrong. I beg you hear a little when you can. One day he will be eliminated and his first hand experience blacked out. Scott Ritters job for most of his life was to defeat Russia.
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is this true, or was he framed?

 
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Conan

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canadyjd said:
Pure propaganda. I watched all I could stomach. Just a few minutes.

First false claim “Russia allowed” Ukraine to maintain communications, including Zelenskyy video conferences. Those conferences continue to this day. If Russia could stop it, they would.

Second false claim: Russia came in with minimal force, not widespread artillery. Just a lie. They were shelling civilian populations from the get go.

Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true.

peace to you
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Also let me add I am glad you at least watched a little. You had exposure to the truth for a little. Let 2 and 2 add up. Or not. Regardless, thanks for trying! I can ask no more.
 
canadyjd

canadyjd

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Conan said:
Also let me add I am glad you at least watched a little. You had exposure to the truth for a little. Let 2 and 2 add up. Or not. Regardless, thanks for trying! I can ask no more.
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Third falsehood from the video: “This is not a war”.

The only “truth” I was exposed by watching this video is the truth it is pure propaganda.

peace to you
 
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Conan

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canadyjd said:
Third falsehood from the video: “This is not a war”.

The only “truth” I was exposed by watching this video is the truth it is pure propaganda.

peace to you
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Again, thanks for trying! It is appreciated. Sorry it was not beneficial for you.
 
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