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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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StephenUSAFVet said:
EXACTLY! There are people dying and going to hell and we have some arguing over a translation. Yes there are some translations that suck IMO, but we have some excellent English translations.
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There is nothing wrong with arguing about a Bible translation. There are some newer versions which are unfaithful to the Original Autographs and must be exposed as such. I am not KJVO but can say from many years of textual studies that it is most probably the best Version ever in the English language. God has blessed this Version like no other and uses it mightily even today for teaching the Truth about Himself
 
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Yeshua1

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StephenUSAFVet said:
Again, if we say that someone can only be saved through a KJV, and once saved can only grow spiritually by reading a KJV, we have limited the power of the Holy Spirit.

I love how the KJV is written. You won’t find another like it. For personal reading and study, I love the NASB95. If I want a straight to the point version, I also like the NLT.
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You will like the upcoming Legacy nas then!
 
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Yeshua1

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StephenUSAFVet said:
I have often wondered and asked the same thing. I have nothing against someone who wants to solely read from the KJV. If that’s the version they find themselves eager to pick up and read, and the version through which God speaks to them, then great!!! But if you take a KJV and translate it into another language, it’s no longer the KJV. People were won to the LORD away before 1611. Millions have been led to the LORD since 1611, and not necessarily through a KJV translation.
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How about the teaching that only really saved come thru preaching and teaching the Kjv alone?
 
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SavedByGrace said:
There is nothing wrong with arguing about a Bible translation. There are some newer versions which are unfaithful to the Original Autographs and must be exposed as such. I am not KJVO but can say from many years of textual studies that it is most probably the best Version ever in the English language. God has blessed this Version like no other and uses it mightily even today for teaching the Truth about Himself
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Would say that it is very good, but not better then esv/Nas/Nkjv!
 
robycop3

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Salty said:
There is one BB member who often posts:
" FALSE DOCTRINE is an important part of ministry. And the KJVO myth IS a false doctrine."

and another poster gives comments such as:
" you're happy with your humanistic naturalistic intellectual position of no perfect Bible, great, enjoy your error-ridden Bible. What do you want me to tell you?
You keep teaching people that all copies and translations of the Bible have mistakes, and I'll keep teaching people that copies and translations of the Bible can be perfect."
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I believe you know that, while I rant against many false doctrines, the one that comes up most-often here is the KJVO MYTH.

And it IS a myth. Why? Because it's a widely-held but FALSE belief that says the KJV is the ONLY valid English Bible version there is. I believe the majority of people here are sola scriptura, & thus, as myself, don't believe any doctrine of faith/worship not found in Scripture, at least by strong implication.(Such as that of the Holy Trinity) The KJVO myth isn't found in Scripture, even in the KJV itself, by he least quark of the slightest implication. That fact alone makes it untrue.(Not to mention the falsehoods within that myth, such as "the KJV is perfect". If I point out goofs in the KJV, it's to disprove "the KJV is perfect".)

And I, & others, have posted the man-made origin of the current edition of that myth in the ""translations" forum. There's been little dispute against that origin; none that have begun to disprove it.

Now, I don't care if one wishes to use only the KJV (or any other one version) but I DO care if they criticize me or others for being Freedom Readers, not bound by man's rules to any one Bible version or translation. One of my fave preachers of the past preached only from the KJV, Dr. J. Vernon McGee, but he didn't beliegve the KJVO myth. He said he grew up with the KJV, was led to Jesus thru its words, & it was the version he was most familiar with. (In his audio Bible study covering the entile Bible, he didn't hesitate to point out the KJV's "Easter" goof in Acts 12:4, or "Thou shalt not KILL" in Ex. 20:13.)

And I shall continue to criticize the KJVO myth & dispute with those who believe it.
 
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robycop3 said:
I believe you know that, while I rant against many false doctrines, the one that comes up most-often here is the KJVO MYTH.

And it IS a myth. Why? Because it's a widely-held but FALSE belief that says the KJV is the ONLY valid English Bible version there is. I believe the majority of people here are sola scriptura, & thus, as myself, don't believe any doctrine of faith/worship not found in Scripture, at least by strong implication.(Such as that of the Holy Trinity) The KJVO myth isn't found in Scripture, even in the KJV itself, by he least quark of the slightest implication. That fact alone makes it untrue.(Not to mention the falsehoods within that myth, such as "the KJV is perfect". If I point out goofs in the KJV, it's to disprove "the KJV is perfect".)

And I, & others, have posted the man-made origin of the current edition of that myth in the ""translations" forum. There's been little dispute against that origin; none that have begun to disprove it.

Now, I don't care if one wishes to use only the KJV (or any other one version) but I DO care if they criticize me or others for being Freedom Readers, not bound by man's rules to any one Bible version or translation. One of my fave preachers of the past preached only from the KJV, Dr. J. Vernon McGee, but he didn't beliegve the KJVO myth. He said he grew up with the KJV, was led to Jesus thru its words, & it was the version he was most familiar with. (In his audio Bible study covering the entile Bible, he didn't hesitate to point out the KJV's "Easter" goof in Acts 12:4, or "Thou shalt not KILL" in Ex. 20:13.)

And I shall continue to criticize the KJVO myth & dispute with those who believe it.
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The 1611 translators themselves did not see their finished work as being either perfect or final word in translations!
 
George Antonios

George Antonios

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StephenUSAFVet said:
I’ve been reading this group and it’s posts for a very long time. Whenever I have a question, even before becoming a member myself, I always turned to this forum platform in search for answers that were of sound doctrine.
I have read so many posts on this platform regarding translations of the Bible. What I have witnessed is sad. Within the body of said believers here, I’ve seen hundreds of times one person putting down another based on the translation they read from; whether it’s someone who believes the KJV is the only inspired Word of God, or that a modern translation could also be inspired.
Here’s my issue with that thought-process.

Since when did the Holy Spirit only speak to someone through a specific English Bible translation? Arguing and insulting someone because of the translation they study from only says that you believe the Holy Spirit can be contained in a certain translation.

Shouldn’t the Bible be studied? Shouldn’t we as Christians, in a Christian-based forum, be edifying and lifting others up? Shouldn’t we, instead to picking apart someone because they read a KJV or ESV, praise God that they are reading God’s Word?

While I have come to this platform many many times for Biblical guidance, I’ve found myself coming less and less because I see the same hypocrisy and anger being spewed out by those who then claim to know which Bible translation is better.

That is sad.


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If you're looking for "sound doctrine", then that takes verses, but since verses often differ greatly from one version to the next, even flatly contradicting each other, of course the version being used becomes an issue.

I was once witnessing to 4 young Muslims in a metro who were surprisingly open, even to the trinity.
I was showing them verses out of my Bible and it was going great.
Then a Christian young man showed up who heard us and took an interest.
He was saved but a non-trinitarian. He took issue with the trinity, opened his Bible to the same passage I had, and "proved" to the Muslims that the trinity is false, because his version did not have the verse. I was livid. That man had possibly jeopardized the salvation of those 4 souls.

Is the Bible versions issue sad? Sure.
Should we be more gracious with one another? Sure.
Should we treat the Bible version (i.e. the words of God) issue lightly, when changes in the words can undo Bible doctrines? No way. There is no heavier issue than the words of God. This is no secondary thing, nor even a primary thing, this is the whole kit and caboodle. And if Christians don't know that, the devil does.
 
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Salty

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Not only that - but the actual translation -
George Antonios said:
If you're looking for "sound doctrine", then that takes verses, but since verses often differ greatly from one version to the next, even flatly contradicting each other, of course the version being used becomes an issue.

I was once witnessing to 4 young Muslims in a metro who were surprisingly open, even to the trinity.
I was showing them verses out of my Bible and it was going great.
Then a Christian young man showed up who heard us and took an interest.
He was saved but a non-trinitarian. He took issue with the trinity, opened his Bible to the same passage I had, and "proved" to the Muslims that the trinity is false, because his version did not have the verse. I was livid. That man had possibly jeopardized the salvation of those 4 souls. ...
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Which version - which verses???
 
George Antonios

George Antonios

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Salty said:
Not only that - but the actual translation -


Which version - which verses???
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His version did not have 1John 5:7, in this case it was the French Louis Segond, but it's missing from a number of English versions too.
 
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