Your views on Christian Rap, Rock and Christian metal???

[rooster25]

i cant get enough of the old stuff,,,stryper ,petra ,whitecross,deliverance.............james I have friends just like you but I love them anyway.....and stryper is highly talented ..much better than the crap you listened to(janes addiction)

 

[James_Newman]

much better than the crap you listened to

We can argue all day about who plays better rock than who, but lstening to old hymns never causes me to say things like that. But I appreciate that you are tolerant of your friends who don't choose to partake.

 

[rooster25]

do the hymns cause u to be judgemental the hynms were contemporary once too..I love the hymns
psalms 150

later rusty

 

[James_Newman]

Did you just judge me to be judgmental?

 

[rbell]

ya'll be nice...or I'll start singing old-timey hymns to the CCM crowd, and some Stryper to the hymn-loving crowd!


:tongue3:

 

[rooster25]

I never said judging was wrong ..and yes I did judge you....have a good one...see yall tommorow

later rusty

 

[nate]

Has anyone listened much to Dogwood? I just discovered them and must say I'm impressed I like the fact their different from a lot of other bands. Anyway if you haven't please check em out.

 

[xdisciplex]

i cant get enough of the old stuff,,,stryper ,petra ,whitecross,deliverance.............james I have friends just like you but I love them anyway.....and stryper is highly talented ..much better than the crap you listened to(janes addiction)

Whitecross are amazing. I love this 80ies metal and what I also like is the poser solo track on every album. :thumbs:
But I'm not satisfied with the christian music scene as it is right now. Right now I feel like most of the new christian bands are hardcore bands which all sound more or less the same. I don't know why that is. Maybe they aren't talented enough to play anything besides this hardcore stuff but it's really annoying. And what I also don't think is good is how people behave at christian hardcore concerts. I have seen videos of Norma Jean in concert and the teenagers there were freaking out. They weren't just moshing, they did this violent dancing, where the people beat into the air and also do high kicks. It doesn't only look totally ridiculous it's also dangerous. People can get hurt. I think that such a behavior is not okay and it shouldn't happen at christian concerts.
I think we need more high quality bands which are a little bit more inventive and have a more modern sound. "Drop of Red" is a great band for example or "decyfer down" is also not bad. At the moment I prefer a more new metalish sound compared to classic metal.

http://www.myspace.com/dropofred

http://www.purevolume.com/decyferdown

http://www.myspace.com/skilletmusic (check out the new song "rebirthing")

http://www.myspace.com/thousandfootkrutch

http://www.myspace.com/fallingup

For fans of epic metal:

http://www.theocracymusic.com/discography.php

 

[Jack Matthews]

To me, whether a song is for entertainment or worship is in the lyrics, not the style of the music. If the words are written in a vertical style, that is, they are directed to God from the worshipper, and they are not just about God, then the purpose of the song is worship. Some music can be used for discipleship as well.

I hear criticism of contemporary styles of music as being "shallow" or "light" in their content. There is some of that, but there is a whole lot of contemporary styled music that is quite deep. My wife and I are raising our younger brothers, ages 17 and two 16 year olds, and they play in the praise band at church. Their understanding and the depth of what they know about their relationship with the Lord has definitely been affected in a positive way by their extensive knowledge of lyrics of perhaps 60 different choruses and songs. Probably three fourths of these songs are arrangements of words from scripture, or are direct scriptural principles and teachings.

Southern Gospel and four part harmony hymns have their purpose and their audience to reach. I'm glad to see the Spirit is inspiring people where they are, and leading them to translate the gospel into the dozens of musical cultures that make up each community today, so that it is an advantage rather than a hindrance to sharing the gospel.

Jesus once told his disciples, who had attempted to stop some believers from preaching because they were not part of the inner circle, that "Anyone who is not against us is for us." I think that should be our attitude toward people who express their love for Christ in worship in a musical style with which they are comfortable.

 

[nate]

:thumbs:
But I'm not satisfied with the christian music scene as it is right now. Right now I feel like most of the new christian bands are hardcore bands which all sound more or less the same.

I agree that is where the Christian scene has been heading lately. But I don't mind this because I like the harder stuff.

I don't know why that is. Maybe they aren't talented enough to play anything besides this hardcore stuff but it's really annoying.

It may be somewhat easier to play the harder stuff but as a beginning guitarist I don't think this means the bands are less talented but rather unfortunatly the Christian music industry follows the Secular industry. Which is annoying.

And what I also don't think is good is how people behave at christian hardcore concerts. I have seen videos of Norma Jean in concert and the teenagers there were freaking out. They weren't just moshing, they did this violent dancing, where the people beat into the air and also do high kicks. It doesn't only look totally ridiculous it's also dangerous. People can get hurt. I think that such a behavior is not okay and it shouldn't happen at christian concerts.

I agree with you completely. Though one point may be Norma Jean has been playing to some Secular audiences. But we can have fun without hurting people and doing stupid stunts.

At the moment I prefer a more new metalish sound compared to classic metal.

That's cool I love Nu-Metal. Especially playing in the Drop D which allows for awesome power cords.

 

[DeclareHim]

Wow xdisciplex that amazing the first three bands you linked to I get to see Aug. 24,25 and 26 at Downpour Fest. in Greatfalls MT. It's gonna rock.

Drop of Red
Skillet
Decyfer Down
Building 429
Pivitplex
Seventh Day Slumber
33 Miles
Identity

it's going to be awesome. Identity is a cool new band: www.identityband.com.

 

[nate]

Wow xdisciplex that amazing the first three bands you linked to I get to see Aug. 25 and 26 at Downpour Fest. in Greatfalls MT. It's gonna rock.

See you there!

 

[xdisciplex]

@ nate

I also love New Metal. Dropped D rules. It allows really cool stuff which you could play any other way. I think one advantage which new metal and also industrial metal has over classic metal is that the songs are more interesting. There are new metal songs or also industrial metal songs which I could listen to all day. But there are also metal songs which you hear like 2 times and they already start to annoy you. For example the last Pillar album was a huge disappointment. The guitar always sounded the same and the songs started to bore me pretty fast. I'm really into this modern sound which also include programming and effects. I wish there were more christian bands out there. It's not so much about having really complex songs, the sound is much more important. I like it when the song has depth and when it's spheric. And what's also really important is the drums. Take the latest Disciple album for example. The drums are totally weak. They're not heavy and don't have a full sound. It's a pity that many christian bands have a weak production. The production plays a huge role. If the sound isn't right then even the best songs don't sound good anymore. Right now I'm anxiously expecting the new album from "These five down". They have released 1 album so far which was pretty good. This album is 6 years old. They had a great sound and their singer sounded a lot like Davis from Korn. Their new album "friction" is coming out on September 15th. I hope it's gonna be good. And I also hope that Brian Welch is going to release his album in the near future and of course I hope that it's good. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[gekko]

can't wait for skillet's new album to come out!!

 

[Snitzelhoff]

can't wait for skillet's new album to come out!!

No way they'll top Collide, though; that was their masterpiece.

 

[xdisciplex]

No way they'll top Collide, though; that was their masterpiece.

how do you want to know this? do you even know their new song "rebirthing"?
It's great.

 

[nate]

I also love New Metal. Dropped D rules. It allows really cool stuff which you could play any other way.

Agreed completely.

I think one advantage which new metal and also industrial metal has over classic metal is that the songs are more interesting.

The songs are more interesting and I think the new metal has grown up so ta speak over the old metal. I couldn't stand to much of that glam metal. No thx. I don't want to see some dude in tight leather pants. :tongue3: I think new metal is more grown up and mature. Even though many would argue that point.

For example the last Pillar album was a huge disappointment. The guitar always sounded the same and the songs started to bore me pretty fast.

Another point upon which we agree. 'Where do we go from here' was a waste of $14 bucks. I don't understand why bands shrink back from the new metal image. Bands like TFK, Pillar aren't rapping anymore cause IMO they simply don't want to be labeled under the 'new metal' category. 'Fireproof' was a pretty good album.

I'm really into this modern sound which also include programming and effects. I wish there were more christian bands out there. It's not so much about having really complex songs, the sound is much more important. I like it when the song has depth and when it's spheric.

I wished there was a Christian band that sounded like Linkin Park. They have catchy synth sounds to start the song off and then give you the power the guitar riffs. Their songs are definetly spheric.

And what's also really important is the drums. Take the latest Disciple album for example. The drums are totally weak. They're not heavy and don't have a full sound.

This was one of the biggest surprises in my life. The fact that Disciple could go from 'Back Again' a totally cool album to their latest? I liked the new one ok but comon it didn't sound much like the disciple on Back Again.

It's a pity that many christian bands have a weak production. The production plays a huge role. If the sound isn't right then even the best songs don't sound good anymore.

I think a lot of it has to do with producers. I don't think the Christian bands have the same experience that secular bands get with their producers. The only two major producers I could name would be Aaron Sprinkle up at Tooth and Nail and Skidd Mills at Ardent records. Indeed pity.

Right now I'm anxiously expecting the new album from "These five down". Their new album "friction" is coming out on September 15th. I hope it's gonna be good.

I have never listened to them. I'll definetly check em out.

And I also hope that Brian Welch is going to release his album in the near future and of course I hope that it's good. :smilewinkgrin:

I'm looking forward to this album as well. I think it has a lot of potential.

 

[gekko]

The only two major producers I could name would be Aaron Sprinkle up at Tooth and Nail and Skidd Mills at Ardent records.

and what's his name... brown bannister, can't remember who's he with.
tobyMac and others from gotee records
eddie degarmo

the few that i know...

 

[gekko]

charlie peacock too. just remembered.