So where is your law degree from? Again, no one arrests and prosecutes unless they have some sort of evidence. We will see when the trial begins just what the evidence is. We don't know it. At least I don't know it. Maybe you do?
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Zimmerman to be charged
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So where is your law degree from? Again, no one arrests and prosecutes unless they have some sort of evidence. We will see when the trial begins just what the evidence is. We don't know it. At least I don't know it. Maybe you do?
freeatlast
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You are sooooo blind and deceived. :tonofbricks:
I'm sure Zimmerman's lawyers will push for a pretrial motion to dismiss based on the self defense law. The judge will look at the case and see if there is enough evidence to go to trial. If there is not, it will be done. So I think let's let the courts decide - those who actually have been trained in the law.
LOL - Thanks. Yeah, I'm for justice and letting the law do it's job. Yes, I'm so deceived.
You've seen the autopsy report?
Also why are you assuming that marks must be left for Zimmerman to have started the fight?
Are you sure that Zimmerman didn't push Trayvon from behind or that Zimmerman didn't put his arm around Trayvon's neck or any of a million other possibilites that would constitute and attack but don't leave a mark?
What is your basis for your certainty on the rigid stand that you are taking?
Please share your special source since no one else in the general public has this top secret information that you obviously possess.
What about the eyewitness account that had Trayvon on top of Zimmerman?You've seen the autopsy report?
Also why are you assuming that marks must be left for Zimmerman to have started the fight?
Are you sure that Zimmerman didn't push Trayvon from behind or that Zimmerman didn't put his arm around Trayvon's neck or any of a million other possibilites that would constitute and attack but don't leave a mark?
What is your basis for your certainty on the rigid stand that you are taking?
Please share your special source since no one else in the general public has this top secret information that you obviously possess.
My point is that at this time we don't know who started the fight.
I am not taking a position as to guilt or innocence.
That is the purpose of the trial - assuming that it is a fair trial.
If someone attacked me, I just might be feisty enough to end up on top of them. There is most likely no way for me to get up and run - and I would end up back on the bottom, I'm sure. One moment in time doesn't define the entire fight.
Again, we have to wait for the evidence. Apparently there IS some...
Again, we have to wait for the evidence. Apparently there IS some...
Then regardless of who started the fight one has the right to use deadly force if they feel their life is in danger.
I also question any "evidence" brought to the table now. It wasn't there for over a month, wasn't there for a grand jury to use...now it points to second degree murder of all things, and not even manslaughter?
Highly doubt it.I don't believe that this is correct.
Does the liquor store robber who shoots the clerk get to claim self defense because the clerk pulled out a baseball bat when told to open the register?
Then regardless of who started the fight one has the right to use deadly force if they feel their life is in danger.
I also question any "evidence" brought to the table now. It wasn't there for over a month, wasn't there for a grand jury to use...now it points to second degree murder of all things, and not even manslaughter?
Actually, from talking to my dad (yes, the guy apparently we can't trust - LOL), he said that sometimes charges aren't pressed right away because they want to make sure that all their ducks are in a row before they go ahead with the charges. If they did it right away and they didn't have back all of the evidence (heck, just DNA takes weeks!!), it would have been tossed but they knew that they had to wait to get it all together. It takes time - not like on the CSI shows where it seems like it is all solved in one day (they are wearing the same clothes through the whole show!). So I don't think waiting meant much other than they are being extremely careful to gather the evidence to see if there is a chance at winning this case. They are certainly not going to go after this with less than good evidence because of the public outcry. So they waited.
Given a serious offense like a hate crime, second degree murder charge a grand jury would be involved...yet they interestingly didn't find sufficient reason to pursue it.
freeatlast
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Trayvon Martin's Mom: It Was an Accident
Trayvon Martin's mother admits that Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder and says what he did was an accident.
http://www.newser.com/story/143949/trayvon-martins-mom-it-was-an-accident.html
Trayvon Martin's mother admits that Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder and says what he did was an accident.
http://www.newser.com/story/143949/trayvon-martins-mom-it-was-an-accident.html
That is not what it says.
freeatlast
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She calls it an accident. Under FL law that means he is not guilty of 2nd degree murder.
She can "admit" to anything.
She can only speculate because she wasn't there.
Perhaps she is working on forgiving the person that fatally shot her son.
But you need to get a grip.
freeatlast
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:laugh:Robert Snow
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Could you please site the Florida law concerning murder that states: Once the dead person's mother says it's an accident all charges will be immediately dropped. All evidence to the contrary will be destroyed.
Maybe they are not pursuing it as a hate crime.
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