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Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

Zaatar71

Active Member
Silverhair said;
I mean it could just be the you have evanescent faith and at any moment it will be snatched away from you as it was not your faith to start with, it had to be given to you.
Even the fact that you say you believe is only because you think God determined that you would.

So in reality your whole religion is just a house of cards.

But as a calvinist you are consistent. Wrong, but consistent.

But really how consistent are you?

If Calvinism is true I can't think of a better excuse for an atheist than the one that Calvinism ultimately gives him.
They can honestly say, if Calvinism is true I was born a God hater without the ability to believe in my own God unless He unilaterally picked me before I was even born for reasons that He never reveals and gives me this miracle of faith causing me to believe.

I can't think of a better excuse in the world than I was born unable to believe without a miracle and God withheld that miracle from me.
No Silverhair, All men are responsible to repent and believe the gospel, they have no excuse. You had just denied the supernatural work of THe Spirit Of God once again, so I would be more concerned with your errant views than what I am doing! Enjoying our interactions!
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
No Silverhair, All men are responsible to repent and believe the gospel, they have no excuse. You had just denied the supernatural work of THe Spirit Of God once again, so I would be more concerned with your errant views than what I am doing! Enjoying our interactions!

All men are responsible but not under the divine determinism of your calvinist religion. Responsibility requires a free will which what God has given to all mankind.

But I am glad to see that you are starting to come around to the truth. It seems you are starting to understand why calvinism cannot be true.

Remember ZA it is your confessions LBCF/WCF that say God determines all things, not just some things. Determinism is one of the hills your philosophy dies on.

I do note you make many attempts to wiggle out of the self made trap of your philosophy but you have yet to provide any substantive defense of your unbiblical view.

Yes I do enjoy watching those of the C/R try to defend their pagan based philosophy.

It is easy to defend the word of God but very hard for you to defend the words of augustine, calvin and all those other luminaries of the C/R religion.
 

Zaatar71

Active Member
All men are responsible but not under the divine determinism of your calvinist religion. Responsibility requires a free will which what God has given to all mankind.

But I am glad to see that you are starting to come around to the truth. It seems you are starting to understand why calvinism cannot be true.

Remember ZA it is your confessions LBCF/WCF that say God determines all things, not just some things. Determinism is one of the hills your philosophy dies on.

I do note you make many attempts to wiggle out of the self made trap of your philosophy but you have yet to provide any substantive defense of your unbiblical view.

Yes I do enjoy watching those of the C/R try to defend their pagan based philosophy.

It is easy to defend the word of God but very hard for you to defend the words of augustine, calvin and all those other luminaries of the C/R religion.
Silverhair, You cannot begin to mount a biblical case against the doctrines of grace... Look at your posts....Augustine was a manechian gnostic, it is pagan philosophy, blah, blah, blah..... you offer no scripture. You speak of philosophy, but that all comes from those who oppose scripture. You did not answer a basic question! In your world, what exists that God does not control? Do things happen that God does not ordain to come to pass?
 
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