United Methodist Church rejects homosexu@l marriage

[Salty]

Read this account

 

[Gup20]

This thread probably violates the "no human sexuality threads" rule.

 

[matt wade]

I'm glad they've decided to not perform these ceremonies, but it's a sad thing that this is up for debate in any church.

 

[Alive in Christ]

Considering that this is one of the very liberal denominations, I'm surprised that they rejected the abomination of same sex marriage.

Glad they did, though.

 

[Palatka51]

Very wise of them. There still seems to be a few Bible believing faithful in the UMC. :godisgood:

 

[Jedi Knight]

This thread probably violates the "no human sexuality threads" rule.

I would like to know if we are or not too. I see the sodomite community coming out of their closets and bearing all. Are we to keep quiet in the christian forums in the future and NOT SPEAK OUT against this sin?????
ANYBODY??

 

[matt wade]

I would like to know if we are or not too. I see the sodomite community coming out of their closets and bearing all. Are we to keep quiet in the christian forums in the future and NOT SPEAK OUT against this sin?????
ANYBODY??

We've debated the sin of homosexuality plenty of times around here without any moderator having a problem. I don't think the rule applies to discussing homosexuality as a sin. It applies to in depth talking about matters of sexuality.

 

[padredurand]

Considering that this is one of the very liberal denominations, I'm surprised that they rejected the abomination of same sex marriage.

Glad they did, though.

Add the phrase for now. I pastored in the UMC for 13 years. This so-called debate has been a constant and persistent issue. As soon as one General Conference settles the issue the wheels start turning for it to be voted on at the next General Conference.

UMC Social Principles. Paragraph 161G. "Homosexual persons no less than heterosexual persons are individuals of sacred worth. All persons need the ministry and guidance of the church in their struggles for human fulfillment, as well as the spiritual and emotional care of a fellowship that enables reconciling relationships with God, with others, and with self. Although we do not condone the practice of homosexuality and consider this practice incompatible with Christian teaching, we affirm that God's grace is available to all. We implore families and churches not to reject or condemn their lesbian and gay members and friends. We commit ourselves to be in ministry for and with all persons."

The militants in the denomination will continue to beat their drum until they get their way.

 

[Darron Steele]

Here are some things I think might be helpful to understand:
The leadership of the UMC is generally liberal to very liberal. However, in the congregations, a great deal of the populace is biblically conservative/fundamentalist or at least respect the Bible.

I figure that the liberals and radical liberals in the UMC denomination leadership would love to recognize and promote this thing. However, they like having the jobs that they have.

The financial resources necessary to keep them in their jobs comes from the people sitting in the pews. In many cases, the people in the pews view the authority of the Bible no differently than most of us here would.

Now, my own commentary:
The denomination leadership knows that if they do something really, really stupid, like promote this thing, there will be a mass exodus out of the denomination. The money it takes to keep them in their jobs would no longer be there. Therefore, they decided to hold off on this.

 

[Jedi Knight]

We've debated the sin of homosexuality plenty of times around here without any moderator having a problem. I don't think the rule applies to discussing homosexuality as a sin. It applies to in depth talking about matters of sexuality.

Thanks for the clarity!:thumbsup:

 

[Salty]

Add the phrase for now. I pastored in the UMC for 13 years. This so-called debate has been a constant and persistent issue.

Padre,
If and when the (leadership of the ) UMC succeeds in the immoral behavior, what % of churches do you think would leave the UMC?

Would they become "Independent" methodists, join with Free, Wesleyan,Southern ect groups?