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Oral Roberts has died

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by preachinjesus, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. pinoybaptist

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    First, I don't believe Jesus called us ALL to spread the gospel.
    He calls many to ministry, and those he calls are to follow Him and His examples, and he sure never preached a prosperity gospel as the late Mr. Roberts, and others still on this earth.
     
  2. Johnv

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    The Great Commission would disagree with you, but okay. Perhaps you're confusing the Great Commission with being a preacher like Paul. Anyhoo, different topic.
     
  3. Thinkingstuff

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    I'll tell my pastor that as he earns in excess of $90,000 annually. He needs to give some of that back prefferable to put it in the collective.
     
  4. Thinkingstuff

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    And so I have, I didn't go to ORU nor do I go to his churches and attending a COG university was bad enough. However, I honor the moral life. Its rare these days even among the faithful.
     
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    Baloney............
     
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    My Bologna has a first name... it's ..

    OH.. wait, my ADD kicked in!... sorry folks.
     
  7. matt wade

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    A "bad version of the gospel"? Sorry, my friend, there is only ONE version of the Gospel. Any other "version" is false and will lead people to hell. His false teachings will lead people to hell and that's far worse than having mistresses, killing people, etc.
     
  8. pinoybaptist

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    Your pastor ?
    You dont want to drag him into this, man.
    You don't wanna go that route, believe me, and I'll be kind enough not to lead you on.
     
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    Absolutely every Christ-Follower is mandated to spread the Gospel... every expression of the Great Commission in the Gospels makes that abundantly clear. That said, sharing our faith is but one element of making disciples... which is the true command. Even those that simply "witness" are still only participating in a part of the Great Commission.
     
  10. Thinkingstuff

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    Did Oral Roberts teach something Other than Christ's Attoning work on the Cross, The Resurrrection from the dead, the Trinity, the inspiration of the Bible, the second coming of the Lord, a final judgement, or a works based salvation?
     
  11. matt wade

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    He taught a prosperity gospel, not the true Gospel. If people come to Christ with a belief in a prosperity gospel, they are not saved.

    If you think his presentation of the Gospel was so good, then why did you call it a "bad version"?
     
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    But that doesn't answer the question of whether Roberts taught something other than Christ's Attoning work on the Cross, Resurrrection from the dead, the Trinity, the inspiration of the Bible, etc. I agree that prosperity gospel is not scripturally supported, but that wasn't the question at hand.
     
  13. matt wade

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    The prosperity gospel brings people to Christ because they think they are going to get something out of it such as money. That's not the true Gospel.
     
  14. Johnv

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending prosperity gospel here. But prosperity gospel doesn't equate prosperity with salvation. It equates the receiving of material wealth with believing in so-called biblical promises concerning prosperity. It is here where it obviously errs. But on the core doctrines of salvation and atonement, one cannot presume that a prosperity gospel proponent believes differently. And to the topic of Oral Roberts, I can find nothing to suport the notion that he didn't teach salvation by anything other than what scripture lays out. His error wasn't in his teachings on salvation, they were in his teachings on physical blessings.
     
  15. Thinkingstuff

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    BTW re-reading this I meant does he teach a works based salvation? Or a faith based one? Just clarifying
     
  16. Marcia

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    I don't call his life a moral life, especially since spread false teachings. That is not moral. OR's influence on the prosperity doctrines of others was seminal.

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f34/measuring-oral-roberts-influence-macarthur-series-part-iii-56747/
     
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    Implying tha Oral Roberts is responsible for pentecostalism is like saying Al Gore invented the internet.
     
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    No, Algore is responsible for global warming.
     
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    It's not saying he is responsible for pentecostalism. It says he's one of the biggest influencers or main influencer on the aberrant doctrines of Pentecostalism. I even bolded it.
     
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