Korea

[freeatlast]

So when did God tell you to wipe out the North Koreans?

I did not say that He did, but He did not say to spare them either. I suggest that you also send your children into harms way to spare the enemy or even go yourself you prefer them over us.

 

[KenH]

I did not say that He did, but He did not say to spare them either.

I hope you are not serious and that you are just trying to get a rise out of other people.

And God did say this about how we are to act toward North Koreans and everyone else:

Matthew 28: 19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

 

[FR7 Baptist]

“This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Your abuse of Holy Scripture is duly noted. The United States is not ancient Israel. We are not a theocracy; we do not have a national covenant with God.

I woud[sic] like them saved also and I care about them also, but I care about our people and the South Korean people more. And yet you would allow these people to continue to murder people in South Korea or send American troops into harms way who most do not know the Lord. May I suggest that you send your own sons and daughters into combat so they can die and the enemy can survive. "Pathetic?" you be the judge since you seem to have standards above that of God. If you really care what are you doing here? Why are you not over there trying to convert them or is caring just a bunch of words?

The issue is that you have standards below God. Christians have traditionally followed Just War Theory, which is based on scriptural principles. Your plan to nuke all North Koreans is both anti-God and anti-Bible. I don't have a flag wrapped around my cross. As a conservative Christian, my conscience is bound by the inerrant word of God, not by blind nationalism. You really need spiritual help.

 

[Jim1999]

Most veterans of the Korean War have very strong feelings for the North Koreans against whom we fought. We want to see peace in that country. We want to see some of those villages we raided rise up and live decent lives. There is an amazing number of these people that do not follow their leaders, but they have little option. Even many soldiers are such only for the income and food they get........there is nothing else for them.

One of the strongest children's mission had its birth in Korea, North and South, and it was started by a veteran (civilian at the time) of that war.

I pray for the Koreans, and yes there are many Christians in the North as there are in China, and they pay the price.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[freeatlast]

I hope you are not serious and that you are just trying to get a rise out of other people.

I am very serious! While I pray that these people would be saved, but not at the expense of another not being saved. No Not even one! The government of South Korea is probably the most oppressive irrational government in the world. They know nothing but might and have shown by their actions that they have a total disregard for others lives. They teach their people not to trust anyone outside their country and even hate them. It is a waste of time to try and fight them and not wipe them out. We have 60 plus years of history to prove that. I have no problem with people like you who wants to sacrifice themselves for their sake. I do however have a problem with people like you who want to sacrifice other innocent people for your piety.
Please go and spread the gospel, but if it were my choice they would not be allowed to continue to attack other nations and our military people stationed in the South. I would nuke them out of existence instead of sending our people into harms way to fight and spare them.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

I do however have a problem with people like you who want to sacrifice other innocent people for your piety.

I'd rather die by my enemy's hand while remaining faithful to my Lord and His dictates than commit genocide against an entire nation, live to an old age and enter into the flames of hell, wherein is the eternal abode of the damned.

 

[freeatlast]

Your abuse of Holy Scripture is duly noted. The United States is not ancient Israel. We are not a theocracy; we do not have a national covenant with God.



The issue is that you have standards below God. Christians have traditionally followed Just War Theory, which is based on scriptural principles. Your plan to nuke all North Koreans is both anti-God and anti-Bible. I don't have a flag wrapped around my cross. As a conservative Christian, my conscience is bound by the inerrant word of God, not by blind nationalism. You really need spiritual help.

It is not about nationalism. I am not bound to this country by some strange sentiment. I refuse to even salute the flag or take the pledge as I feel it goes against the word of God and yet I thank God for what freedoms I do have hear. He alone is the One I make a pledge to. I am talking about how God gives evidence that His children are to handle those who continue to shower harm on His people. I am glad that you were not in charge in the second WW. We would still be fighting the Germans and the Japanese while trying to save their citizens from harm while our own troops are slaughtered. The North is the aggressor and what is at stake is another WW. I stand on my statement about wiping them out.

 

[KenH]

I am very serious!

Then I feel sorry for you.

 

[freeatlast]

I'd rather die by my enemy's hand while remaining faithful to my Lord and His dictates than commit genocide against an entire nation, live to an old age and enter into the flames of hell, wherein is the eternal abode of the damned.

I have no problem with your doing that, but I don't think you can show me it is the will of the Lord. It may be your piety that brings you to it but not necessarily the dictate of God. However if you are so deeply desiring that some of these people be saved what are you doing here? Get with it and get over there. God has given us His example as to how to handle nations like North Korea. He never suggests when someone is the constant aggressor that we are to spare them while they kill our own.

 

[freeatlast]

Then I feel sorry for you.

You seem to feel sorry for just about everyone except our own sons and daughters and the sons and daughters of the innocent South Koreans. However if you are real then pray for me and don't stop until you get what you ask for.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

It is not about nationalism. I am not bound to this country by some strange sentiment. I refuse to even salute the flag or take the pledge as I feel it goes against the word of God and yet I thank God for what freedoms I do have hear[sic].

I'm sorry you feel that way. I love my country and am proud to salute the flag and pledge my allegiance to the United States and the State of Florida.

He alone is the One I make a pledge to. I am talking about how God gives evidence that His children are to handle those who continue to shower harm on His people.

The United States isn't God's people. God's people aren't Americans, North Koreans, Jews, or any one national or ethnic group. God's people is the holy catholic church, those who, by faith, trust in the Blessed Saviour. Your evil genocidal views are an obscenity and are of the Devil.

 

[KenH]

We need to remove our troops from harm's way by bringing them home from South Korea. Their economy is 40 times larger than the North's, they should be able to defend themselves, even building their own nuclear weapons if necessary to keep the North restrained with theirs.

 

[freeatlast]

Most veterans of the Korean War have very strong feelings for the North Koreans against whom we fought. We want to see peace in that country. We want to see some of those villages we raided rise up and live decent lives. There is an amazing number of these people that do not follow their leaders, but they have little option. Even many soldiers are such only for the income and food they get........there is nothing else for them.

One of the strongest children's mission had its birth in Korea, North and South, and it was started by a veteran (civilian at the time) of that war.

I pray for the Koreans, and yes there are many Christians in the North as there are in China, and they pay the price.

Cheers,

Jim

Jim I totally agreed with you and I pray also that the nation of North Korea stops its aggression and the people are free to come to Christ, but if not I would not waste a single life that was not necessary to spare them. Our men and women also need to hear the gospel and get saved and I would not trade them for the people of North Korea.
That being said I have no problem with people going their and giving their life at their own free will. I would not rule that out for myself, but again I would not send a single man or woman into harms way without using every possible weapon to keep them safe and in this case I believe it is nukes to extinction.

 

[freeatlast]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I love my country and am proud to salute the flag and pledge my allegiance to the United States and the State of Florida.



The United States isn't God's people. God's people aren't Americans, North Koreans, Jews, or any one national or ethnic group. God's people is the holy catholic church, those who, by faith, trust in the Blessed Saviour. Your evil genocidal views are an obscenity and are of the Devil.

I can tell that you are certainly a righteous man and your prayers are coveted since you have so much incite.
By the way I do have a small question. If you lived during the OT times and was around when God commanded them to destroy all the people of the Amalekites including the women and children would you obey?

 

[freeatlast]

We need to remove our troops from harm's way by bringing them home from South Korea. Their economy is 40 times larger than the North's, they should be able to defend themselves, even building their own nuclear weapons if necessary to keep the North restrained with theirs.

With that I agree and hope that it would happen instead of having to go to war.

 

[Rippon]

One of the strongest children's mission had its birth in Korea, North and South, and it was started by a veteran (civilian at the time) of that war.

Are you referencing Harry Holt? He was an American soldier in the Korean War. Mr.Holt was from my original church background --the Plymouth Brethren. He adopeted about seven children at the end of the war and his neighbors adopted still more. The agency is now called Holt International. His daughter Molly Holt,about 75 now, is still involved. She has Molly's House in Ilsan. She's an inspiration.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

I can tell that you are certainly a righteous man and your prayers are coveted since you have so much incite.
By the way I do have a small question. If you lived during the OT times and was around when God commanded them to destroy all the people of the Amalekites including the women and children would you obey?

Honest answer: I would hope to have enough faith in God to do so, but violence and killing are not in my nature. Thankfully, God, in His grace, has spared me from being in that situation. In the New Covenant, I am free from the shackles of Old Testament law. I am free to be the kind, gentle, and peace-loving creature that I am.

Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ for fulfilling the law! Praise be to Christ for this millennial blessed age wherein the Gospel is free to spread and Satan is bound and can not stop the truth of the Lord!

 

[freeatlast]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I love my country and am proud to salute the flag and pledge my allegiance to the United States and the State of Florida.



The United States isn't God's people. God's people aren't Americans, North Koreans, Jews, or any one national or ethnic group. God's people is the holy catholic church, those who, by faith, trust in the Blessed Saviour. Your evil genocidal views are an obscenity and are of the Devil.

Well you are proud of your country and I am proud of my God. I don't think that God is proud of this country. And while I thank God that I am allowed to live under the freedoms we have even though they are going fast, I am not proud of a country that sanctions the murder of millions of babies every year by sucking their brains out. I am not proud of a country that requires a disabled woman to be put to death by thirst and starvation simply because she is disabled (Terri Schiavo ). No I am not proud of this country, but I am grateful to God for allowing me to live in it in relative peace and comfort while the country I live in continues to murder the unborn and disregard the God who I am proud of.
I have no problem with you saluting the flag, taking the pledge or any other thing. I simply am not going to do those things. My allegiance is to One. It is not divided or shared. For me that is how I believe it is to be. You simply believe for you a different path and that is fine. " Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind."

 

[preachinjesus]

I have no clue why all of you persist in feeding trolls...

Rippon, I forgot you're in Korea...our prayers are with you during what must be tense moments.

 

[freeatlast]

Honest answer: I would hope to have enough faith in God to do so, but violence and killing are not in my nature. Thankfully, God, in His grace, has spared me from being in that situation. In the New Covenant, I am free from the shackles of Old Testament law. I am free to be the kind, gentle, and peace-loving creature that I am.

Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ for fulfilling the law! Praise be to Christ for this millennial blessed age wherein the Gospel is free to spread and Satan is bound and can not stop the truth of the Lord!

I stand on the same grace and freedom that The Lord Jesus has brought me and praise Him for it, but with that He also brought me the freedom to protect my family, myself, my country and any innocent person at any cost to the aggressor. And while I would get no pleasure out of having to take another's life I would do it in a heartbeat if necessary.