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Has anyone read this book by Debi Pearl? I'm currently reading it right now, and personally think its a great book and very straight to the point![]()
Page 79: “A Command Man who has gone bad is likely to be abusive. It is important to remember that much of how a Command Man reacts depends on his wife’s reverence towards him. When a Command Man (lost or saved) is treated with honor and reverence, a good help meet will find that her man will be wonderfully protective and supportive. In most marriages, the strife is not because the man is cruel or evil; it is because he expects respect, and is not getting it. When a wife plays her part as a help meet, the Command Man will respond differently. Of course, there are a few men who are so cruel and violent that even when the wife is a proper help meet, he will still physically abuse her or the children. In such cases, it would be the duty of the wife to alert the authorities so that they might become the arm of the Lord to do justice.”
Page 263: “Lady, you were created to give glory to God. When God puts you in subjection to a man whom he knows is going to cause you to suffer, it is with the understanding that you are obeying God by enduring the wrongful suffering. And when you suffer wrongfully, as unto the Lord, you bring great glory to God in heaven.”
I have read and thoroughly enjoyed Debi Pearl's book. The word Help Meet is translated from the word Ezer and means, basically, right arm. I know there are many women who consider her book heresy and think she advocates women being doormats. I disagree heartily. She advocates women standing up and being the help meet they are created to be instead of sitting on the sofa, watching soaps, reading romance novels and doing nothing and then wondering why their husbands pay them no attention.
I will say that I think, depending upon whether you are a liberal, fundamental or conservative Christian, will color you views on these books, as will your definition of equality and submissiveness. But then, those things will also color your view on other subjects as well.
The servant is not given the option of deciding that the master is not acting within the will of God and therefore should not be obeyed. It is acceptable with God (God's will) for the underling to suffer wrongfully and take it patiently.
You will surely wonder, "why is it the will of God for the underling to suffer at the hands of an unjust, and perverse authority?" Two reasons are obvious, one of which we have already stated. First, the chain of command must remain intact, even to the point of allowing some abuse. The other reason is introduced in verse 20 - glory. We were created by God and placed upon this earth to express his glory (Ps. 8:5, Is 43:7, Rom 2:7, Heb. 2:7). Jesus did not live his life in ease for his own pleasure. He lived and suffered for the glory that was to follow (1Pet. 1:11).
"It doesn't take a good man, or even a saved man to have a heavenly marriage. But it does take a woman who is willing to honor God and by being the kind of wife God intended." - Debi Pearl
Genesis 3 16 ---Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
let me give my two cents on this. This verse wasn't God giving man permission or authority to rule over women. This was God giving a statement of fact that man WOULD seek to rule over women.
. Give your parent some credit for staying with one another all this time in spite of their problems. They might yell and insult one another, but they have the idea of committment down pat!
Instruct your brother's girl in the scriptural ways of finding a man. (equally yoked means more than religion by the way)
Your actions are most times going to be the best witness for Christ! A
I don't have the time or the brain power to fully answer but Debi and Michael Pearl are very dangerous teachers and I would not only not recommend their materials but I also would highly caution against using them. I took one summer a few years ago to study their materials first hand and I think that was the angriest summer of my life. Their teaching is just so wrong.
Created to be His Helpmeet can be summed up in one phrase - "It's all the wife's fault". That is such wrong teaching and so against what the Scriptures say. During that summer, I was going to put together all of my information but found a blog that pretty much wrote exactly what I would have written and I decided not to recreate the wheel. You can see the blog at http://createdtobehelpmeet.blogspot.com/
ah! one more point..
Eve was created to be a suitable HELPER for Adam..but remember.. that because she caused him to sin..her consequence was basically to be under his authority
Genesis 3 16 ---Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Page 11 - “Adam, the first man, Samson, the strongest man, Solomon, the wisest man, and even David, the man listed as being after God’s own heart, were all brought down by the women they loved.” - Debi Pearl
MK has given you some good insights there. God did not tell Adam to "rule over her - she's a BAD woman - she messed up the good thing we had going on". The conversation about how her husband was going to treat her was between God and Eve - not God and Adam.
And I'm sorry, MamaCW (I really don't like being argumentative with sisters in Christ - I really don't- it makes me feel bad)
.....but Eve was not created to be a suitable "helper" for Adam. She was created to be his "help". See post #8 as to the Biblical definition for that word.
Also, blaming Eve for Adam's sin is what Adam tried to do. It didn't go over very well with God. God wanted to hear Adam confess his own culpability for his own actions and he didn't. Adam wasn't punished for listening to Eve.
Adam was listening to her, but then punished for eating of the tree that God told him not to eat from.
He was never given a directive "DON'T listen to that woman". But he was told, "DON'T eat of that specific tree." If listening to a woman and heeding her words was a sin, the Abagail was the biggest sinner that there was and David was the biggest fool that there was. The longest passage of a speech from a woman in the Bible is Abagail talking David out of his plans to kill every man on her property because of her wicked husband. David THANKED GOD for her and her words. And then he married her.
Was she wrong in giving him the fruit? YES! But was he equally as wrong in taking it and eating it? YES!
Saying that Eve "caused" Adam to sin makes her and all women after her 100% responsible for the spiritual outcome of men. Wives, mothers, girlfriends, and more. It takes the responsibility of his own spiritual walk away from the man.
And this is what Debi Pearl does in SPADES.
MamaCW, when I read the Bible, I just don't see that.
I see four men who did not sin because they loved a particular woman too much and allow her "Jezebel spirituality" as she calls it to RUIN a man. (She actually says that women are "directly or indirectly the cause of every religious cult there is". She says that we have no spirituality of our own - cannot understand doctrine on our own - cannot properly distill the true theology of the Word ON OUR OWN. We must have a man who is our "head" to do so for us.)
I see four men who sinned of their own accord. I'll challenge anyone to prove to me that David loved Bathsheba, that Solomon loved those 1,000 women, and that Samson loved Delilah and that these men sinned out of sacrificing themselves out of love for a woman who was 100% in the wrong and purposefully leading them TO sin.