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The Bible on drugs and drug-dealing

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Nazaroo, Jul 13, 2011.

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  1. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

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    I previously posted some links on this in other threads, but obviously its such an important subject, and drugs including alcohol have had such a devastating impact on North America, that this deserves to be exposed again.

    First of all, drugs really are noticed and mentioned in the Bible, even the old King James Bible (marginal note):

    "‘DRUG ABUSE’. Not often mentioned in the Bible, but the principles derived from alcohol abuse would apply to modern drugs, and it is true that the King James Authorized Version of 1611 does still carry a marginal reference at Deut. 29:18 that is in the majority of English printings."

    I've also previously posted this list from the New Testament

    Drug Dealers In the Bible? Where?

    Drug dealing is treated gravely and severely condemned in the New Testament: 5 times.

    (Gal.5:20, Rev.9:21, 18:23, 21:8, 22:15, original Greek)

    Paul Spoke out against Drug Dealing:

    Gal 5:20 "Now the works of the flesh are OBVIOUS: sexual immorality, uncleanness, ... DRUG DEALING ( pharmakeia )...and things like these I am warning you, THOSE WHO DO THEM WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD!"

    John also Speaks out against Drugs:

    Rev. 9:21 "Nor did they even repent of their murders or their DRUG DEALING (ton pharmakon) or their sexual immorality or their robbery."

    Rev 22:15 "OUTSIDE (heaven) are the dogs and the DRUG DEALERS (hoi pharmakoi), and everyone who practises falsehood."

    Rev 18:23 Babylon the Great City has fallen...All nations were deceived by your DRUG DEALING (en te pharmakeia)"

    Rev 21:8 "But as for the ...DRUG DEALERS (pharmakois) their place will be in the Lake of Fire, which is the Second Death!"
     
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  3. Thinkingstuff

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    Whew! Imagine if you worked for Pfizer, or GlaxoSmithKline, or Merk! If you're this guy [​IMG]Jeffrey Kindler

    You're going to hell for sure!!!!!

    I can't think of a bigger drug dealer than this guy.
     
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  4. Nazaroo

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    All of the above links make a distinction between legitimate medical use of drugs and other techniques such as first-aid and surgery, and recreational drug abuse, and selling illegal recreational drugs and also legal drugs like alcohol for abusive purposes.

    Drug manufacture has always largely been an immoral, profit driven, destructive industry, spawning violence and wrecking lives.

    And not surprisingly, God has always been against it.
     
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    Thinkingstuff Active Member

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    I think I'll quote Larry the Cable Guy with regard to my post
    I think you need to distinguish between legitimate drug manufacturers and crack houses.

    both or just the one?
     
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    Do you realize the profits being made by people who open up stores to sell legal pot to people for health reasons. I would get into that business myself if my state was to legalize it for medical reasons. It wont be long before the pharma chain stores will be doing it anyway so why not open up a store where there is a need?
     
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    You make a good point. Marajuana once considered a recreational and gateway drug is now being used for medical purposes at great wealth to "legitimate" drug business. However I wonder if Pfizer or others are really legitimate. Has any one seen the Constant Gardner? That some good insite into big pharmacology business and how currupt they are as well. Maybe Nazaroo shouldn't differentiate betweent the two!!!!
     
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    You take the greek word Pharmakea and postulate drug use when the scriptures indicate witchcraft as translation which Pharmakea also means. How do you emphasise one use over the other?
     
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    Yea & all HQ'd in NJ.....the wealthier parts I might add.
     
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    There are 2 good programs floating around PBS & affiliates.

    1) How whiskey founded America

    2) how beer created civilization

    God may have a pompous for this stuff.
     
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    I need to catch those programs!

    Certainly, but for whiskey we wouldn't have Nascar.
     
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    Is that why you have Timothy Dalton's Bond as your avatar? Because he busted the drug dealers in "License to Kill"?

    Anyway, pharmakeia means the use of drugs and potions in witchcraft and/or idolatrous ceremonies and not illegal drug use, per se.

    But then I forget that you are an accomplished Greek scholar, much more learned than anyone else on the planet, so I'm sure you will correct me.
     
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    Among his other avatars on other forums and blogs :Sean Connery (not as James Bond),Clint Eastwood (as Dirty Harry),Steven Seagal,Zorro,Gandolf (as portyayed by the Sodomite actor Ian McKellan) and Mister Bean I think. ;)
     
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    Gandalf was a great character long before the "Sodomite actor Ian McKellan" played him in the recent movies.
     
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    Let me check:
    Zorro: Yes
    Clint Eastwood: Yes
    Sean Connery: Yes

    Steven Segal: No - I think that is scrivener?
    Gandalf? : No. That is another physicist, RoguePhysicist.

    You need to be more accurate.
    I believe Scrivener (who's name isn't Ben by the way - that looks like a rather transparent synonym to me: "Ben Davidson"?!?) has posted some pictures on his own blog to help you keep things straight:

    Good times with Nazaroo

    By the way, Edward Miller died at the turn of the 20th century, some hundred years ago.
    Edward Miller, M.A., Rector of Bucknell, Oxon. (1825-1901) 19th century textual critic and understudy of John Burgon, dean of Chichester

    And yes, Sir Ian apparently is a homo, or else he's incredibly stupid (or both).
     
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    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    YEA, I read the Lord Of the Rings & the Trilogy when I was 14 ..... I loved that series of books.
     
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    Nor would you have happy hour. Or how do you make Egg Nog & what are you supposed to put in your coffee when your ice fishing & whats supposed to go into those flasks gentlemen carry around? And what happens to Robitusin? Heck, Scotland would loose its largest export business & go bankrupt.
     
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    Naz quotes :"I'm a nuclear physicist,with an IQ of 167."

    "As a brilliant mathematician and scientist,I have a strong belief that debating you would be like squashing a bug. That's the reason I don't normally engage inferiors,except to educate them."

    Are you also going to deny that you go by Joe Layman?

    Yet that is indeed your real name is it not? One has to give their actual name on some forums such as S.I.
     
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    Wow 167 ....Einstein was only 164 .... I'm impressed :laugh:
     
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  20. Nazaroo

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    IQ is mostly a measure of cultural absorption.
    But mensa has newer and better tests.

    Einstein, obviously quite brilliant, would have scored quite low in a variety of important categories, like American history, politics, linguistics (most IQ tests in the USA are based on English comprehension and exposure).
    But he would have scored near-perfect in the geometry categories (no guarantee he would spot the trick questions on a first pass: his education was after all based on turn of the century German scholarship).
     
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