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God's Purposes Thwarted?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Luke2427, Jul 18, 2011.

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Does God always get his way; not just in the END but at all times forever?

  1. Yes, everything happens EXACTLY as God always intended and purposed that they would happen.

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  2. No. God has allowed creatures to thwart his eternal purposes but God will fix it all in the end.

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  3. YOU FOLLOW CALVIN AND NOT THE BIBLE!!!

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  4. YOUR GOD'S A DIVINE RAPIST!!! DAHMER!!!!! SERVETUS!!!!!!

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  1. Luke2427

    Luke2427 Active Member

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    Do you believe that not one single purpose of God has ever or will ever fail?

    Do you believe that NOTHING that ever happens happens outside of the eternal purposes of God?

    Do you believe that EVERYTHING that has ever or will ever happen, happens EXACTLY as God always intended?

    ALL of us agree that there are things that God permits that he does not like in and of themselves.

    That is not the question. The question is, Does even THOSE things happen exactly as God, NOT ONLY KNEW THEY WOULD HAPPEN, but as God PURPOSED them to happen?
     
    #1 Luke2427, Jul 18, 2011
  2. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Little over the top on the last two choices bucko, still it does happen in here (sad & Funny....all at :eek: the same time :laugh:)
     
    #2 Earth Wind and Fire, Jul 18, 2011
  3. quantumfaith

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    I would say a bit inappropriate. Seems as though you may have created this "survey" in a bit of an "unhappy" mood.
     
    #3 quantumfaith, Jul 18, 2011
  4. Amy.G

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    Just more vitriol towards us nameless theology folks. :sleep:
     
    #4 Amy.G, Jul 18, 2011
  5. Skandelon

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    I'd like to add another much more clear option: "God has established a world in which sin will indeed necessarily come to pass by God's permission, but not by his 'positive agency.'" - Jonathan Edwards
     
    #5 Skandelon, Jul 18, 2011
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    The people on this forum try their darndest to KEEP any reformed folks in an unhappy mood...
     
    #6 Havensdad, Jul 18, 2011
  7. Earth Wind and Fire

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    try a mood changer fellars ....tell us bout Texas BBQ

    Tired of Pork Pull & Beans......I wants some steak (wifes on a vegetarian kick also so its becoming Boca Burgers & Beans). yuuk Thats one of the things I loves bout Texas
     
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  8. Skandelon

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    Aww man! I was just about to go to bed and now you gone and made me hungry!!! I'm trying to diet!!! :mad:
     
    #8 Skandelon, Jul 18, 2011
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    ah well you know, God's ways are a mystery.
     
    #9 mandym, Jul 18, 2011
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    Ah, just felt like using option 3. Maybe a little humor will be nice for the night.
     
    #10 jbh28, Jul 18, 2011
  11. quantumfaith

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    I am going to HOPE that your comment here was with a smile and just a twinge of sarcastic flavor. :praying:
     
    #11 quantumfaith, Jul 19, 2011
  12. preacher4truth

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    Now brother, then we would be the ones to let them do it. And, I? I won't let them. :)


    Not worthy of my time. :thumbsup:
     
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    Yea well you eat 6 straight weeks of Salad & Boca Burgers....least you can go get something. Lets see.... you live in Texas. I live in New Jersey.....Im already in hell! Thanks man for making my day.:rolleyes:
     
    #13 Earth Wind and Fire, Jul 19, 2011
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    You do understand that Edwards was a Calvinist, who also affirmed God's overarching divine decrees? In other words, that quote reads kinda like,

    "God has established a world in which sin WILL INDEED NECESSARILY come to pass by God's permission, but not by his positive agency."

    i.e.; it was still the will and decree of God, he is just not responsible for the sin. Are you becoming a Calvinist, my friend?
     
    #14 Havensdad, Jul 19, 2011
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    Kinda like this filet I made a couple weeks ago? With grilled asparagus and sweet potato?

    [​IMG]
     
    #15 Havensdad, Jul 19, 2011
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    No not at all....more like a blackened piece of dry soy ....you put vast amounts of pickles, catchup & any condiment laying around to give it flavor. Need a drink close at hand to keep it from lodging in your esophagus.
     
    #16 Earth Wind and Fire, Jul 19, 2011
  17. Luke2427

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    That would be option one.
     
    #17 Luke2427, Jul 19, 2011
  18. JesusFan

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    How about this...

    'God has granted "limited" free will unto his creations, and that some things are determined by Him directly, others permitted, but in all things, His ultimate Will will come to pass, as he works together all things done for His glory and purposes!"
     
    #18 JesusFan, Jul 19, 2011
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    You cannot be serious...we cannot do anything that hasn't been predestined, remember? :)
     
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    :laugh: ROFL !!!

    ...i feel for you brother!....LOL
     
    #20 kyredneck, Jul 19, 2011
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