Jesus walking over the sea

[Goinheix]

Prove to me that He didn't know.

He resdfuses to drink it after testing it; and because he test it. Before testing it, he didnt know what it was.

 

[annsni]

You make too much enfasis in each word i use. Jesus didnt know of the fact that Lazarus was death in the mind of his sisters. But any how. Jesus did not know many things as what it was given to him to drink at the cross.

You think, it is your opinion that Jesus "did not know some things because it was part of his human nature" In that scenario, it is perfertly correct to say that Jesus (because of his human nature) were not aware of the situation of the disciples in the boat. In that scenario it is clear that Jesus because of his human nature was not omniscient at all. Because of Jesus human nature he did not have divine atributes. Am I right?

Nope. You make incredible leaps.

 

[Goinheix]

I can't believe this person is still around yanking chains. He must be LOL'ing his head off.

it will more easy to combat me with christians weapons instead of human low tricks.

you are reported.

 

[Goinheix]

islamic persons deny Jesus in this same way

am I glad to know that all of you run out or biblical arguments and gived up on refuting me.
thanks for your aproval.

 

[DHK]

am I glad to know that all of you run out or biblical arguments and gived up on refuting me.
thanks for your aproval.

No approval. I gave you a verse by verse explanation of the entire account of his walking ON the water on the Sea of Galilee. You never even responded. I don't think you could. There was too much evidence against you.

 

[annsni]

He resdfuses to drink it after testing it; and because he test it. Before testing it, he didnt know what it was.

You do realize He not only knew because He was God but because it was prophesied?

 

[Frogman]

He resdfuses to drink it after testing it; and because he test it. Before testing it, he didnt know what it was.

Brother Goinheix,
What are you trying to prove? Are you denying the Deity of Christ Jesus the man ? Or are you speaking of His human nature.? I am certain there are things in His human nature that He submitted to God in faith, although He was God-Man, He worshipped God as man.

He submitted Himself in all points to the will and righteousness of God, He did this IN His humanity. Is this what you are trying to state?

I will freely admit that the particulars of His Deity in union with his humanity are mostly a mystery to me, but I have no doubt that He walked on water, I have no doubt that he controlled the wind and seas, I have no doubt that anytime HE could have asked of God and legions of Angels would have been sent to deliver Him, yet this is NOT the fulfillment of the following passages:

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Hebrews 10:7-10 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Just to name a few, not to mention, though I should, His prayer in the Garden prior to his arrest.

Trying to understand your meaning Brother, but having great difficulty. Please understand, where and what I believe based upon Scripture is that Christ is Eternal God, He is likewise Man.

I do not know the particulars of what He did or did not know, but I do not believe that any portion of the Will and Purpose of God the Father was hidden from Him in the fulfillment of the Redemption of those Chosen in Him before the foundation of the world.

bro. Dallas:wavey:

 

[Goinheix]

You do realize He not only knew because He was God but because it was prophesied?

something is wrong, because he didnt know what it was given to him tyo drink. being God didnt help him, and being prophetized didn help him neither. He simply didnt know, because he was not omniscient. Period.

 

[Mexdeaf]

it will more easy to combat me with christians weapons instead of human low tricks.

you are reported.

First you need to get saved, THEN you can understand the Bible.

A truly saved person will be willing to humble themselves to learn the truths of the Bible, and not go around spouting their ignorance and condemning others who DO know the truth.

You may report me all you wish. I have spoken nothing but the truth.

 

[Frogman]

Perhaps, since we are speculating anyway, perhaps He didn't know because he was in extreme agony and in the throngs of being made sin for me???

bro. Dallas:thumbsup:

 

[jbh28]

ahem,

 

[freeatlast]

He resdfuses to drink it after testing it; and because he test it. Before testing it, he didnt know what it was.

It does not say He did not know what it was. He knew the scripture and the scripture prophesied that very thing would happen. He was simply fulfilling prophesies.
It is just like when he told the disciples that the son of man must suffer, die, be in the grave three days and three nights. It was not a surprise to Him when it happened. He knew it was coming He just stepped up and allowed what was to be. The same with the drink.

 

[Don]

tell me: is the God of non baptis the same God as yours? is the Jew God the same as yours?

Had this discussion once. A group I was involved with were making the claim, "we all worship the same god."

I asked them, "If Christians say that Jesus is God, but the muslims deny Jesus is God, and the Jews deny Jesus is God, then how can you say the Christians, muslims, and Jews all worship the same god?"