freeatlast
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John 12:42-43 presents a huge problem to Lordship Salvation.
Jn 12:42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
These verses say many of the chief rulers believed on Jesus, but did not confess him for fear of being put out of the synagogue. It also says they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
Were these men saved? I believe they were, the scriptures never call an unbeliever a believer. Yet they did not commit 100% to Jesus, they were afraid to confess him. They loved the praise of man more than God.
So, were these men saved? Can a man believe on Jesus and not be saved?
I would like those who believe in LS to address these verses and explain if they believe these men were saved or not.
I think those verses pose a good question and to be honest they could go either way. Here is one reason;
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
It would be easy to argue that these men were denying the Lord before men and that would certainly be a very good argument which would mean they were lost.
However for the sake of argument let's say they are saved as you contend. How does what they were doing go against Lordship salvation?
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