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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Aaron, Nov 18, 2011.

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  1. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

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    Nothing in this post is biblical. It's only your opinion based on your Calvinist presuppositions.

    You claim Adam was corrupted before he ate the fruit. There is not one thing in the bible to even hint at such a thing. The bible is clear that Adam was good until he ate the fruit. He was innocent until he disobeyed God. He was only given ONE commandment and that was not to eat the fruit. He could not have been corrupted by anything else because nothing else was forbidden to him.

    You can't post any scripture to back you up on this and you can't even find one theologian that would agree with you.

    Luke!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are you when we need you to stop people from talking about things they know nothing about and teaching NEW doctrines?????? :laugh:
     
    #41 Amy.G, Nov 20, 2011
  2. Amy.G

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    I guess this is one of your "jokes" but I don't get it. Do you like to sleep in church? :confused:
     
    #42 Amy.G, Nov 20, 2011
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    I like to sleep yes & church does have that effect on me...so boring I do fall asleep which is probably the best thing I can do while there:sleep::laugh:
     
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  4. Earth Wind and Fire

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    He is a pastor....probably in church boring the crap outa people (no not Luke) :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    #45 Earth Wind and Fire, Nov 20, 2011
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    Why is it you have such disdain for the church, something that God demands that we be a part of. Sounds like you are in rebellion!
     
    #46 Robert Snow, Nov 20, 2011
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    #47 Amy.G, Nov 20, 2011
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    I'm beginning to think you are just a troll.
     
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    He is, at least, doing it... :saint:
     
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  10. Aaron

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    Let's try it one more time.

    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit - Jesus.
     
    #50 Aaron, Nov 20, 2011
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    But you have failed to deal with a good tree becoming a bad tree, then producing bad fruit. :laugh:
     
    #51 glfredrick, Nov 20, 2011
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    Which would also require you to deal with a bad tree becoming a good tree, then producing good fruit.
     
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    So Peter was a bad tree when he denied Christ? David was a bad tree with he committed adultery? You were a bad tree the last time you sinned? Do you switch from being a bad tree when you sin to being a good tree when you obey?
     
    #53 Skandelon, Nov 20, 2011
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    BAD tree! BAD BAD tree!!!

    [​IMG]
     
    #54 Amy.G, Nov 20, 2011
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    Again, for the THIRD time, Bro. Aaron, what sin did Adam commit that caused his heart to be corrupted prior to the fruit ingestation?


    Adam was made "very good", as Sis. Amy stated in an earlier post. So, what caused him to turn "sour" prior to eating the fruit?
     
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    Keep it up Brother!! [​IMG]
     
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    One thing at a time. Jesus said a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit. If an act of Adam was evil, it had to spring from a corrupt heart.

    If one balks at the premise, what use is there to go forward?
     
    #57 Aaron, Nov 21, 2011
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    Good point...especially because Jesus is the one who made it in the 1st place.:thumbs:
     
    #58 Earth Wind and Fire, Nov 21, 2011
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    So you're saying God made Adam to be a bad tree. ????
     
    #59 Amy.G, Nov 21, 2011
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    Aaron doesn't know. He has ripped a verse out of context and is trying to prove that all men are evil, even Adam before the fall. There is no scripture to support this, so you will not get anything more than his opinion.
     
    #60 Amy.G, Nov 21, 2011
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