Calvinist Swipe at John Piper

THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID:

Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
There, I proved you wrong. Will you admit that you were corrected?

 

1. I know several Calvinists who are real and true people. I saw one today, he was walking around and seemed to really be there. I've seen John Piper too, and he is also a real person.

2. 2 False teachers arguing...Apparently it is very interesting to watch:
-Romney & Gengrich
-H. Clinton & Obama
-Joe Biden & Sarah Palin
-Paula Abdul & Simon Cowel :tonofbricks:

 

THIS IS WHAT GOD SAYS:

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

I tell you what God says, but you and Earth, Wind, and Fire have laughed at me to your own disgrace.
Now that I taught you something, will you repent for following falseness?

 

You proved nothing. God said "DO NOT EAT."

You are saying that God WANTS US TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL. Sorry dude, the DEVIL convinced Eve to eat so that SHE COULD KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.

God said NO WAY. They disobeyed.

Now, what was it that you disproved about what I said? :tonofbricks:

 

I gave you scripture of what God said, yet you say "NO WAY."

Do you not believe in the scripture that I showed you?

In addition, do you not believe God is sovereign?

 

Do you believe that the Lord Himself determines and provides for our salvation, that it is not dependent upon our will, but the Will of God Himself?

 

According to you I cannot believe that God is sovereign...

That's what those dreadful, hateful, lying Calvinists believe.

 

God wants us to love Him of our own free will. God made the plan for our salvation before the creation of the world.

 

man though cannot love the Lord based upon his "own free will", as since the fall, none of us have that capacity any more!

 

That is nowhere in the scriptures, that is a manufactured belief.

 

Apostles peter/paul "made it up", in full agreement with the prophet isaiah!

 

DON'T FEED THE TROLL! :wavey:

 

Show one scripture that says no human can believe in God after learning of Him! Show just one scripture. You cannot; however, I can show you many scriptures telling you that that is exactly how we come to know Him.

 

Are you getting away with this posting? Even if the moderator does not like me, he still should moderate all. This personal attack from you is against the rules. You have not even commented on the topic. Who is the real troll? Be careful how you falsely judge me, because it is the very thing you are guilty of being.

 

I stopped commenting when it became obvious above that any comments went over your head.

What, exactly, is it that you would like me to comment on? Perhaps this:

Okay, I will comment...

You almost constantly cite the fact that you are guided by the Scriptures:

Yet, after ALL that reference TO the Scriptures, you have only posted TWO VERSES and those were not even particularly pertinent to the topic at hand.

So, I guess I've commented. Your turn to call me a dirty Calvinistic liar again... Then complain about it as well. :laugh:

 

Ugh...you would rather talk about a bunch of nothing instead of giving up Calvinism. Try it, confess that it is wrong. Confess to God through Jesus that Calvinism is false and you are sorry for it. Say it aloud. I have done a similar prayer and have been grateful for it. What will it hurt if you say it?

 

How are you definign calvinism here?

Doctrines of grace alone, or ALL of the theology that it encompasses for say reformed Baptists/presby?

and why would any of us here renounce cal in regards to Sotierology, since that is the best model of salvation from our understanding?

why so bitter/angry, shouldn't we just see it as being merely differences in interpretation?

 

Once you realize that total depravity is not true the rest of the TULIP falls as well.

There are people who believe in Martin Luther’s teachings, he taught total depravity. There are people who claim to be 5 point Calvinists, and even 4 point, etc.

All of TULIP is false.

 

Wow Moriah... you take yourself WAAAAY too seriously. You're gonna blow a gasket or something.

WM

 

WOW, Westministeman, you sure were a busy little secretary. Did you enjoy looking up things I said to defend myself? LOL :laugh: