THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID:
Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
There, I proved you wrong. Will you admit that you were corrected?
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Calvinist Swipe at John Piper
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THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID:
Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
There, I proved you wrong. Will you admit that you were corrected?
Calvinists are false, and so is Piper, so what does it matter what the two false teachers say about each other?
1. I know several Calvinists who are real and true people. I saw one today, he was walking around and seemed to really be there. I've seen John Piper too, and he is also a real person.
2. 2 False teachers arguing...Apparently it is very interesting to watch:
-Romney & Gengrich
-H. Clinton & Obama
-Joe Biden & Sarah Palin
-Paula Abdul & Simon Cowel :tonofbricks:
Isn't your answer what the serpent (Satan) promised Adam and Eve?
Gen 3:4-5 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
THIS IS WHAT GOD SAYS:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
I tell you what God says, but you and Earth, Wind, and Fire have laughed at me to your own disgrace.
Now that I taught you something, will you repent for following falseness?
glfredrick
New Member
THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID:
Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
There, I proved you wrong. Will you admit that you were corrected?
You proved nothing. God said "DO NOT EAT."
You are saying that God WANTS US TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL. Sorry dude, the DEVIL convinced Eve to eat so that SHE COULD KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.
God said NO WAY. They disobeyed.
Now, what was it that you disproved about what I said? :tonofbricks:
You proved nothing. God said "DO NOT EAT."
You are saying that God WANTS US TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL. Sorry dude, the DEVIL convinced Eve to eat so that SHE COULD KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.
God said NO WAY. They disobeyed.
Now, what was it that you disproved about what I said?
I gave you scripture of what God said, yet you say "NO WAY."
Do you not believe in the scripture that I showed you?
In addition, do you not believe God is sovereign?
I gave you scripture of what God said, yet you say "NO WAY."
Do you not believe in the scripture that I showed you?
In addition, do you not believe God is sovereign?
Do you believe that the Lord Himself determines and provides for our salvation, that it is not dependent upon our will, but the Will of God Himself?
glfredrick
New Member
I gave you scripture of what God said, yet you say "NO WAY."
Do you not believe in the scripture that I showed you?
In addition, do you not believe God is sovereign?
According to you I cannot believe that God is sovereign...
That's what those dreadful, hateful, lying Calvinists believe.
Do you believe that the Lord Himself determines and provides for our salvation, that it is not dependent upon our will, but the Will of God Himself?
God wants us to love Him of our own free will. God made the plan for our salvation before the creation of the world.
God wants us to love Him of our own free will. God made the plan for our salvation before the creation of the world.
man though cannot love the Lord based upon his "own free will", as since the fall, none of us have that capacity any more!
man though cannot love the Lord based upon his "own free will", as since the fall, none of us have that capacity any more!
That is nowhere in the scriptures, that is a manufactured belief.
That is nowhere in the scriptures, that is a manufactured belief.
Apostles peter/paul "made it up", in full agreement with the prophet isaiah!
glfredrick
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DON'T FEED THE TROLL! :wavey:
Apostles peter/paul "made it up", in full agreement with the prophet isaiah!
Show one scripture that says no human can believe in God after learning of Him! Show just one scripture. You cannot; however, I can show you many scriptures telling you that that is exactly how we come to know Him.
DON'T FEED THE TROLL!
Are you getting away with this posting? Even if the moderator does not like me, he still should moderate all. This personal attack from you is against the rules. You have not even commented on the topic. Who is the real troll? Be careful how you falsely judge me, because it is the very thing you are guilty of being.
glfredrick
New Member
Are you getting away with this posting? Even if the moderator does not like me, he still should moderate all. This personal attack from you is against the rules. You have not even commented on the topic. Who is the real troll? Be careful how you falsely judge me, because it is the very thing you are guilty of being.
I stopped commenting when it became obvious above that any comments went over your head.
What, exactly, is it that you would like me to comment on? Perhaps this:
God wants us to love Him of our own free will. God made the plan for our salvation before the creation of the world.
Okay, I will comment...
You almost constantly cite the fact that you are guided by the Scriptures:
Show one scripture... Show just one scripture. You cannot; however, I can show you many scriptures telling you that that is exactly how we come to know Him.
That is nowhere in the scriptures, that is a manufactured belief.
I gave you scripture of what God said, yet you say "NO WAY."
Do you not believe in the scripture that I showed you?
Yes, it is a result. I gave you scripture.
I only speak of what is in the Bible.
I only speak God’s truth. You however, you speak your own truth, which can be any lie, just like the lies you say about me. You look up old and new scholars and pronounce them as truth teachers, yet you do not even check with the Word of God. If you did check with the Word of God, then you would know that it is not my truth but God’s truth that I speak.
Yet, after ALL that reference TO the Scriptures, you have only posted TWO VERSES and those were not even particularly pertinent to the topic at hand.
So, I guess I've commented. Your turn to call me a dirty Calvinistic liar again... Then complain about it as well. :laugh:
I stopped commenting when it became obvious above that any comments went over your head.
What, exactly, is it that you would like me to comment on? Perhaps this:
Okay, I will comment...
You almost constantly cite the fact that you are guided by the Scriptures:
Yet, after ALL that reference TO the Scriptures, you have only posted TWO VERSES and those were not even particularly pertinent to the topic at hand.
So, I guess I've commented. Your turn to call me a dirty Calvinistic liar again... Then complain about it as well. :laugh:
Ugh...you would rather talk about a bunch of nothing instead of giving up Calvinism. Try it, confess that it is wrong. Confess to God through Jesus that Calvinism is false and you are sorry for it. Say it aloud. I have done a similar prayer and have been grateful for it. What will it hurt if you say it?
Ugh...you would rather talk about a bunch of nothing instead of giving up Calvinism. Try it, confess that it is wrong. Confess to God through Jesus that Calvinism is false and you are sorry for it. Say it aloud. I have done a similar prayer and have been grateful for it. What will it hurt if you say it?
How are you definign calvinism here?
Doctrines of grace alone, or ALL of the theology that it encompasses for say reformed Baptists/presby?
and why would any of us here renounce cal in regards to Sotierology, since that is the best model of salvation from our understanding?
why so bitter/angry, shouldn't we just see it as being merely differences in interpretation?
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How are you definign calvinism here?
Doctrines of grace alone, or ALL of the theology that it encompasses for say reformed Baptists/presby?
and why would any of us here renounce cal in regards to Sotierology, since that is the best model of salvation from our understanding?
why so bitter/angry, shouldn't we just see it as being merely differences in interpretation?
Once you realize that total depravity is not true the rest of the TULIP falls as well.
There are people who believe in Martin Luther’s teachings, he taught total depravity. There are people who claim to be 5 point Calvinists, and even 4 point, etc.
All of TULIP is false.
WestminsterMan
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What you say about me are lies. How do you feel about yourself speaking lies? I only speak of what is in the Bible.
Where did I ever call myself a scholar? You cannot stop yourself from continuing to spread lies. As for me being convinced of the truth, of course I am. You try to make confidence in the Truth something bad, to your own disgrace.
I only speak God’s truth. You however, you speak your own truth, which can be any lie, just like the lies you say about me. You look up old and new scholars and pronounce them as truth teachers, yet you do not even check with the Word of God. If you did check with the Word of God, then you would know that it is not my truth but God’s truth that I speak.
You sure are a well-read man. Do you know what a slanderer is? Do you know what a hypocrite is? You have slandered me here, and you also judge me of doing the very things you yourself do.
Oh, like the way you are trying to blast me out of the water wholesale. Go back and read about what a hypocrite is. I see you love Calvin, Spurgeon, and Piper, but I love the Word of God.
I could not care less what you think of me personally. Stop making posts to me with your personal rants of what you think of me. Show me what I say that is wrong scripturally, otherwise back off of the personal comments with no truth.
You are the one who is hateful to me. I take my time to try to show the truth, yet you call me hateful for this. You prove you cannot make a righteous judgment. You want me to put little smileys next to my posts. Would this make you feel better?
You are a liar, a slanderer, and a hypocrite. You should repent soon for this lie.
You defend a murderer, John Calvin, yet you falsely judge me. You do what your father John Calvin did.
We are supposed to correct each other, because of love. We are supposed to demand each other not to teach false doctrine. Yet, you lie and say I hate and tell my brother "Raca." 1 Timothy 1:3-4 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer…
You have shown much evil today in how you spoke to me.
Wow Moriah... you take yourself WAAAAY too seriously. You're gonna blow a gasket or something.
WM
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Wow Moriah... you take yourself WAAAAY too seriously. You're gonna blow a gasket or something.
WM
WOW, Westministeman, you sure were a busy little secretary. Did you enjoy looking up things I said to defend myself? LOL :laugh: