Featured pictures of a brain with mental illness for fred

Mental illness means, literally, an illness of the mind, as opposed to an illness of the brain. But can minds be ill? I argue that they cannot. Mental illness is, therefore, a myth. Since illness affects only the body and the ‘mind’ is not a bodily organ, the mind cannot be ill. ‘Mental illness’ is, therefore, an oxymoron.

http://educationviews.org/2011/08/05/a-dissenting-view-the-myth-of-mental-illness/

 

Sorry Nodak, but I am still not sold on this "mental illness" theory.

Given the fact that the mind is immaterial, (one cannot remove it from the body and hold it in one's hands or put it in a box) it is impossible for the mind to develop an illness.

 

They find brain tumors in the mind?? Wow, I didn't know that.

I always thought they were in the brain.

 

Though I am not willing to go as far as fred... I think it is helpful to read the perspectives of the CCEF people on these kinds of issues. Here is decent article/case study on bipolar disorder

http://www.ccef.org/basics-about-bipolar-0

I would generally say there are physical, even brain-related, and thyroid-related problems than can alter the way some people process. It does not make them sin, however.

A very mild example of this is a woman with PMS (I'm married, and have wonderful wife). I know that my wife at the time of her period can be more iritable than normal and more likely to snap at me (verbally...:smilewinkgrin. But she has often apologized for such snaps, telling me that the way she feels did not give her an excuse to treat me badly.

The fact that I know this does not mean I snap back at her and accuse her of giving in to her PMS feelings...Rather, I need to give her more grace and leeway at those times, and usually she will apologize without me saying anything.

A person with a brain or chemical issue could be caused to feel differently, but whether they are on or off their drugs, they need to be counseled to seek to please God at all times.

 

Hey Fred.....looks like you have
Oppositional Defiant Disorder

 

As I have said, as soon as someone can show me a photograph of a mind, I will change my perspective.

My medical books show every part of the human body, including every area of the human brain. I have not found one picture of a mind any any of my books.

If you can find a picture of a mind, perhaps you can submit it to the AMA and be famous for being the first one to show the world what a mind looks like.

 

The only good thing about my bi-polar disorder is that it is not PMS:smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin:

John

 

Do you have the mind of Christ?

 

Steadfast, I think you need to divide your understanding of the word mind, from your definition of the word "mental". Let me try to explain.

A diabetic has problems with the level of sugar in his blood stream, but it isn't his blood that creates the problem, it's his pancreas.

Similarly, a person with a mental illness has a problem controlling those things we consider and define as one's "mind", but the source of the problem lays within one's brain. It's not the mind that is the problem, but the brain, without which we cannot express those things we define as voluntary actions.

Another example might be a person with MS. This is a disease of neurological tissues which make up the nervous system of which the brain is part. At first the symptoms may only be a tingling sensation, but as the disease progresses, the brain loses its ability to control voluntary things like making a fist or speaking and eventually involuntary things like breathing. The 'MIND' may want to walk, but the brain can't communicate the wishes of the mind to the legs.

In a person with a "mental" illness the brain is running wild and the mind is suppressed. The malfunctioning brain is controlling the mind instead of the other way around.

 

The word mental pertains to the mind, it is not a physical tangible object that one can see, feel, taste, smell or hear.

Being immaterial, it cannot acquire illnesses.

 

Websters gives two definitions for illness. One is disease. Since the mind is immaterial, it is impossible for the mind to get ill under this definition.

The second definition is wickedness. Mental wickedness? Well, it appears that refers to sin and not some fabricated sickness concocted by a pharmaceutical company in order to push pills on the unsuspecting public.

 

Really? Then explain to me what happened in Adam and Eve's minds when they ate fruit? They had both a perfectly functioning mind and a perfectly functioning brain. Yet before they ate the fruit, they didn't recognize the difference between right and wrong. So what changed if the immaterial mind cannot be affected by illness, injury or defect?

 

I wasn't in the Garden and have never spoken to Adam or Eve, so I do not know what was going through their minds except by what is written in the Word of God.

And the Word of God nowhere implies they had a mental illness.

 

no but their minds certainly changed. You say the mind cannot be affected by the corruption of this earth, but something changed inside of Adam and Eve and that change was precipitated by God's curse on this earth.

And Webster was just a man who lived well over a hundred years ago. The definitions of those times may or may not represent our reality as language is fluid and changes constantly.

 

You are bearing false witness against me, mk. I never said the mind could not be affected. I said the mind does not get ill.

Now, unless you can show me a picture of an ill mind, or an account of some neurourgeon describing how he operated on someone's brain and made an incision in the mind to remove some bug that made it ill, you ain't going to convince me I am wrong.

 

Explain pain. Is it in the brain or the mind? You cannot hold, feel or put pain in a box. In your world pain should not exist.

 

Pain is not in the mind either. When one smashes one's hand in the door, it is not the mind that feels the pain, it is the hand.