Featured The post 911 world AND God's judgment

So now we have a new dogma: :BangHead:The inerrancy of newspapers!:BangHead::tonofbricks:

 

Often, when coupled with over-realized eschatology, newspapers tend to embellish theological presuppositions to support beliefs and make conclusions instead of being mindful reminders of the sovereignty of God.

 

Since Ezekiel was sent to preach to Israel according Ezekiel 2, I doubt he was thinking about a country 2,500 years later.

I am sure that God will judge America, just as I am sure that God will judge those who use His Word incorrectly to sell books.

 

Here's something that will blow your mind...I'm a progressive Dispensationalist. Actually I know more than a few people who are classical dispensationalists are are also sensible and don't see the "rapture" behind every CNN report from the Middle East.

 

Looks like we're in the same boat!

 

So what do you want to talk about?

1. Increase in homosexuality is a judgment from God. Really? God judges us by sending us more sin?

2. The economy is in the tank since 911. Actually the economy rebounded nicely after 911 and it wasn't until the housing bubble burst in 2008 that we saw a bad economy.

3. Heat wave. We are currently in the uptick of the solar cycle, which produces heat waves and other atmospheric phenomenon on an 11 year cycle.

 

That describes me as well. I don't rely on the latest headline for my eschatology.

 

Technically, the "boom" after 9/11 was false prosperity due to the housing bubble. The bursting of the housing bubble is the correction to structural imbalances. We are not allowing our economy to reallocate resources where they need to be because the government and the Fed are intent on "stimulating" the malinvestments again that led to the problems in the first place.

Otherwise, :thumbs:

 

I won't- it is a waste of time and money, IMHO.

 

Mark me down as one of those "whom do not like newspaper prophecy".

Seriously, evan, if you want to just hobnob with just the ones of your own stripe why don't you go to a group like Rapture Ready? There you can high-five each other on your doctrinal correctness, comfortably oblivious to any of that bothersome iron-sharpening that comes from other POVs.

 

And yet here we are.:wavey:

 

I suppose it is pointless to tell you not to waste your money on that trash. Cahn, the author that you admire so unreservedly, makes mincemeat of the Bible he pretends to expound. He especially trashes Isaiah 9:10-11:

“The bricks have fallen down,
but we will rebuild with dressed stone;
the fig trees have been felled,
but we will replace them with cedars.

'But the Lord has strengthened Rezin’s foes against them and has spurred their enemies on."

This reminds of a lady who spoke in our old church about the Isaiah verse of "when the towers fall", thinking it was so prophetic for the event that had just recently happened (This was ten years back).

Well, this is more of the same. People like Cahn (pronounced "con") make merchandise out of people who just cannot master the concept of reading in context, and of understanding the importance of audience relevance.

So, then who would Resin be? Russia?? Rhetoricritical question.

 

About the Author
Jonathan Cahn’s teachings are known for their prophetic import and their revealing of the deep mysteries of God’s word. He leads the Jerusalem Center / Beth Israel in Wayne, New Jersey, a worship center made of Jew and Gentile, people of all backgrounds. He also leads Hope of the World ministries, an international outreach dedicating to spreading God’s word and love to all peoples. His teachings have been heard across America and throughout the nations via television, radio, and in personal appearances. He is known for uncovering the long hidden riches of scripture and restoring the New Covenant message to its original biblically Jewish context and power.

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Just where does Cahn get this Jew / Gentile thing. God through the Apostle Paul tells us:

Galatians 3:27-29
27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3:8-11
8. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10. And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11. Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

What does Cahn mean by the following nonsense:

The New Covenant has no more to do with Jews than it does with Gentiles, or Greeks as Paul sometimes calls them.

 

Emphasis mine

Ever since 9/11 I have read comments re: Gods judgments "on America" as:
1-certain, 2-possible, 3-unlikely, 4-NO!!

I fall at about 1.3 on this scale.

That being said, I am totally amazed at those who so quickly denounce any suggestion that these extreme and unusual weather patterns etc - among other events - are "NOT JUDGMENTS FROM GOD"!!

All I can say re: their adamant certainty is that I sure do envy their access to God's mind!!!!:smilewinkgrin:


I remember once in Ft Lauderdale, Fla my family went into a restaurant about 5:30 PM for supper & after about 2-3 minutes we looked at each other & said almost simultaneously, "This place feels evil, let's go!"

Can't describe the feeling other than that; it felt evil.

 

"Mark me down as one of those "whom do not like newspaper prophecy"."

The sign of the times is all around us, and we must watch and discern what events that transpire line up with prophecy, or else we are caught sleeping.

Just watch out when the whole world cries out for peace, because it isn't the wars and rumors of wars we need to be fearful of.