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He tasted death for every man, and gives to all eternal life, yet all the Apostles died. If the Lord tarries, you will die.

The end of this life and the death of this body is not the death from which we are saved. The healing of this body is not the healing promised to all through Christ's Atonement.

 

Except Mt in chapter 8 provides the correct understanding for us.
16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

 

Dude, focus.

Your insistance that Christ's atonement promises physical healing to all is the same thing as saying that His promise of eternal life means one will not die.

 

So, Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53:4, not in his death, but in his lifetime, in the evening, in Capernaum. Clearly, Jesus did not die for our sicknesses.

 

All of us, through Christs enabling. His life flowing through us.


Gods magnificant Universal Church.

Praise the Lord!

 

Those that have accepted it still die a physical death.

 

yes :wavey::thumbsup: he did. the scripture says it happened that way.

 

But you are saying that physical healing is promised to all based on the same kind of verses and reasoning.

My point is that the verses you are saying promise physical healing to all do not actually do that, just as the verses that promise life do not promise a stay of physical death.

No. Paul said we will not all die a physical death, but we will all be changed.

 

the healing is in reference to sin...Peter is speaking about sin.

 

Peter said that Jesus' stripes brought healing to us, and he used the Greek word iaomai ("healing") in that verse. In the vast majority of places where iaomai is used in the New Testament, it always refers to physical healing (here are the references: Matthew 8:8, 13, 15:28, Mark 5:29, Luke 5:17, 6:17, 19, 7:7, 8:2, 47, 9:2, 11, 42, 17:15, 22:51, John 4:47, 5:13, Acts 3:11, 9:34, 10:38, 28:8, Hebrews 12:13). In several places, it's possible that iaomai does not refer to physical healing (Matthew 13:15, Luke 4:18, John 12:40, James 5:16). So how do we know which meaning Peter was using?


Look at hebrews 12:13.....the whole chapter is addressing sin,and God chastening sin..it is not speaking of physical healing at all

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In Ezekiel 7:16, 17 we read, "But they that escape of them shall escape, and shall be on the mountains like doves of the valleys, all of them mourning, every one for his iniquity. All hands shall be feeble, and all knees shall be as weak as water:" here the reference is to that inertia which is produced by poignant conviction of sin after a season of backsliding. Again, in Ezekiel 21:7 we are told, "When they shall say unto thee, Wherefore sighest thou? that thou shalt answer, For the tidings, because it cometh: and every heart shall melt, and all hands shall be feeble, and every spirit shall fail, and all knees shall be as weak as water:" where we behold the paralyzing effects of consternation in view of the tidings of sore judgment. But in our text the reference is to the disheartenment caused by fierce opposition and persecution. Despair and becoming weary of well doing are the two evils in all our afflictions which we most need to guard against. It is failure at this point which has led to so many scandalous backslidings and cursed apostasies. Such an exhortation as the one before us intimates that the Hebrews had either already given way to an enervating spirit of gloom or were in great danger of so doing.
"Lest that which is lame be turned out of the way." The word "lest" is a translation of two Greek words, "that not." It is a word of caution and prevention, warning each of us that carelessness as to our own walk is likely to have an ill effect upon weaker Christians. The word "lame" is transferred from the body to some defect of our graces which unfits the soul for the discharge of Christian duty: one who is lame is ill-capacitated to run in a race, and one who is lacking in courage, zeal, and perseverance is ill-fitted to fight the good fight of faith.
"But let it rather be healed." "Heal" signifies to correct that which is amiss. It is the recovering of a lapsed one which is here in view. Instead of despising sickly Christians, exercise love’s sympathy toward them. While we should be thankful if God has granted us healthy graces, we must beware of presumption: "If a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted" (Gal. 6:1). To those groaning under the burden of sin, tell them of the sufficiency of Christ’s blood. To those fearful about the future, remind them of God’s faithfulness. To those who are despondent, seek to cheer by citing some of God’s precious promises. Study the holy art of speaking a word in season to the needy. You will be of great value to the church if you develop a spirit of compassion and the gift of lifting up those fallen by the wayside."

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In 1pet2:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Peter only spoke of sin...in 2:1,2;11 , and here....You have to put physical healing in the text because it was not there...it says he bear our sins.....not physical healing