Prejudice Against Blacks and the Election

[Zaac]

AP POLL: MAJORITY HARBOR PREJUDICE AGAINST BLACKS

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Racial attitudes have not improved in the four years since the United States elected its first black president, an Associated Press poll finds, as a slight majority of Americans now express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings or not.

Those views could cost President Barack Obama votes as he tries for re-election, the survey found, though the effects are mitigated by some people's more favorable views of blacks.

Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly.

In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

"As much as we'd hope the impact of race would decline over time ... it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago," said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.

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Guess it's not to big of a stretch at all that a lot of white voters will not vote for Obama just because he's Black.

 

[Arbo]

Guess it's not to big of a stretch at all that a lot of white voters will not vote for Obama just because he's Black.

Like four years ago?:sleep:

 

[Revmitchell]

Yep an Obama supporter.

 

[Tom Bryant]

I am sure there will be white people who do not vote for the President because he is black. Just like there will be blacks people who vote for him simply because he is black.

But most people will vote for or against a candidate based on what their policies have been or what they say their policies will be if elected. Only the most racist or anti-religionists will vote against someone because of their color or religion.

 

[Zaac]

I am sure there will be white people who do not vote for the President because he is black. Just like there will be blacks people who vote for him simply because he is black.

But most people will vote for or against a candidate based on what their policies have been or what they say their policies will be if elected. Only the most racist or anti-religionists will vote against someone because of their color or religion.

According to the AP report, race plays in part in how people vote. More so than we may think.

Overall, the survey found that by virtue of racial prejudice, Obama could lose 5 percentage points off his share of the popular vote in his Nov. 6 contest against Republican challenger Mitt Romney. But Obama also stands to benefit from a 3 percentage point gain due to pro-black sentiment, researchers said. Overall, that means an estimated net loss of 2 percentage points due to anti-black attitudes.

The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans. Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).

Obama faced a similar situation in 2008, the survey then found.

The AP developed the surveys to measure sensitive racial views in several ways and repeated those studies several times between 2008 and 2012.


Race and Voting

 

[Revmitchell]

the problem with the poll is that they have to read into people's motives and intents of the heart with indirect questions. A lot of speculation and no real facts. But liberals like Zaac, Crabby and the rest of the DNC love to want this to be true. The poll serves no good purpose and is intended to create and excuse if Obama should lose the election. Because liberals cannot behave themselves stuff like this will only create more animosity and division.

 

[Zaac]

Yep an Obama supporter.

You must be one of those Obama haters.

 

[Oldtimer]

Bill, beat you to it.

There's a thread on this AP poll at http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=82342

BTW, check the survey section on responses based on voting based on race. I just posted the link to the entire survey in the other thread.

 

[Arbo]

Guess it's not to big of a stretch at all that a lot of white voters will not vote for Obama just because he's Black.

And I bet there are a lot of black voters who will not vote for Romney because he is white.

 

[drfuss]

Guess it's not to big of a stretch at all that a lot of white voters will not vote for Obama just because he's Black.

While some white people's votes will be affected by race, I suspect that there are many more black people whose votes will be affected by race. IMO, any vote that is affected by race is a racist vote.

 

[Zaac]

the problem with the poll is that they have to read into people's motives and intents of the heart with indirect questions. A lot of speculation and no real facts. But liberals like Zaac, Crabby and the rest of the DNC love to want this to be true. The poll serves no good purpose and is intended to create and excuse if Obama should lose the election. Because liberals cannot behave themselves stuff like this will only create more animosity and division.

The Obama haters are doing all that needs to be done to create animosity and division.

 

[Revmitchell]

The Obama haters are doing all that needs to be done to create animosity and division.

Yep an Obama supporter

 

[Zaac]

And I bet there are a lot of black voters who will not vote for Romney because he is white.

Yes, this was covered in another thread where I believe it was said that 95% or so of Blacks were voting for Obama just because he's black.

 

[Zaac]

While some white people's votes will be affected by race, I suspect that there are many more black people whose votes will be affected by race.

Yes this is essentially what has been said before on this board. I suspect there are probably more whites number wise whose vote will be affected by race.

IMO, any vote that is affected by race is a racist vote.

Colin Powell's ex-COS seems to think so. And now I hear Sununu is backing down from his statements.

 

[Zaac]

Yep an Obama supporter

Yep an Obama hater.

 

[Amy.G]

Is this for real?

 

[targus]

According to the AP report, race plays in part in how people vote. More so than we may think.

The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans. Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).

Stop. Right. There. Obviously, there is a reality disconnect.

Anyone should recognize that it's impossible for a higher percentage of a a group (79%) to express "explicit (anti-black) racism" and for only 64% of that same group to hold "anti-black feelings." That the survey obtained this result proves beyond doubt without going further that its determination of what does and doesn't constitute explicit and implicit racism is inconsistent and flawed to the point of rendering its results useless.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...y-harbor-prejudice-against-blac#ixzz2AY7Ja1oU

The survey results don't pass the smell test.

They stink. :laugh:

 

[Arbo]

The Obama haters are doing all that needs to be done to create animosity and division.

Laughable post. I suppose the Romney haters are all about brotherhood and acceptance?

 

[12strings]

Stop. Right. There. Obviously, there is a reality disconnect.

Anyone should recognize that it's impossible for a higher percentage of a a group (79%) to express "explicit (anti-black) racism" and for only 64% of that same group to hold "anti-black feelings." That the survey obtained this result proves beyond doubt without going further that its determination of what does and doesn't constitute explicit and implicit racism is inconsistent and flawed to the point of rendering its results useless.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...y-harbor-prejudice-against-blac#ixzz2AY7Ja1oU

The survey results don't pass the smell test.

They stink. :laugh:

Thanks for some common sense analysis. The truth is as Tom Butler Stated...some whites will not vote for obama because he is black...some blacks will vote for him because he is black...but the VAST majority will vote with the party they have always voted for, regardless of race...

The simple fact is that a majority of republicans would have voted for a hypothetical Herman Cain/ Condolesa rice ticket OVER a hypothetical white democratic ticket...Party affiliation matters more than anything else for most people...like it or not.

 

[Arbo]

Party affiliation matters more than anything else for most people...like it or not.

Is it a matter of party affiliation or philosophy that matters to most voters? I think the answer varies according to party and demographics.