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I spent eight years of my early manhood in the US Army, serving the nation I love. Because I was determined to make a career of the Military before I understood the inherent cowardice of the American people, as a unit, I know the difference between Automatic, Semi-Automatic and Single Shot Firearms. In my position as the Crew Chief of the UH-1H, 67806, my weapon of choice was a weapon that fired the Military .30 caliber round, sometimes called the thirty ought six round with a full metal jacket on it. In my case, the weapon fired about 650 rounds a minute... continuous fire.

This M60 Machine Gun is, however, not fired continuously by sane people. It is fired in short 3 to 7 or 8 round bursts to prevent burning the barrel out. I was also issued an M16, fully automatic, rifle that I turned in rusted and clogged shut because it did not work to my liking. I captured an AK47 that fired the same round as my M60 because of the knock down power.

So... what am I ranting about? The Liberal Left now has a sick, sick, poster child to push the disarmament of the American Public. The AR15 used in the Newtown murders of the children and the teachers fires the same round the M16 fired that I disliked so much. The .30 caliber round is 3/10ths of and inch in diameter and the AR15 round is .223 caliber. The round is just under a quarter of an inch, weighs, considerably, less and was, in large, the reason I hated the weapon so much. But, this is the weapon and the Ammo they are out to ban.

If I were to go off my rocker and I wanted to hurt somebody, I would break out a 1911 Colt 45 and if I wanted them dead, out comes my 12 Gage Pump Shot Gun, loaded with 12 Gage Slugs and for personal defense I'll have a box of Double Ought. With a 12 Gage Slug I put a hole in a 1/8th sheet of steel I can, often, place three fingers through. From 25 feet with the Double Ought Round it makes a hole for my fist to go through and from farther back it sprays .30 caliber lead balls everywhere.

People, that AR15 did not murder the first teacher nor did it murder those children! A young man, mad at his mother did that. On the same day, in China, a man committed a mass murder of children, in their school, with a hatchet. So... what's next... sharpened pencils? Obama has split this nation into divisive groups and now he is seeking to divide us into sub catagories... did none of you study history and learn the lessons to be had from Adolph Hitler?

 

There are a good many things to co0nsider when making a post of this sort. My men's lives, my pilot's lives and my life depended on the weapon in my hands and having lived theough three tours in Vietnam, two of them in the field, I have experience to rely on. The AR15 is a much improved weapon over what we were issued in the sixries.

And then, I was issued the Garand M1 and was there when we were down graded to the much less effective M14. We lost an immediate fifty foot f efective range and every one of us knew to carry a used clip in our pocket to toss on the ground after the seventh round to fool the enemy with for the M1.

Early in '66 we, in Germany, were informed but the upper eschelon cadre that we were to be downgraded further with the tinker toy AR15s. I was not exposed to the toy gun until it was issued on my arrival in country in June of '66. The man issuing the piece warned us to carry, at all times, a back up piece and to get one to kill or capture a VC and keep his weapon. As a result, we in thed Cavalry had everything from Python .357s to .45 claiber Grease Guns.

Unlike the Hollywood movies, our goal was to get out of there alive and the AR15s were very reliable jamming devices. Having been shot, I do not want to stand in front of the business snd of any piece but this string is not for the purpose of hypothetical situations, there are to many real things in this life to be deealt with. And when we look at real situations, disarmming the public has never made them safer. When we look at Switzerland we see just the opposite to be true. That is pretty much my point on one side but the center of the issue is logic and what we are doing, under the direction of today's version of Adolph Hitler.

 

Fair observation but that does nothing for the PTSD those youngsters will live with the rest of their lives and then... it's not his fault they did not die. The reasons they lived will cover a range of different reasons, just as the ones that survived Newtown covers a spectrum of causes.

 

glazer,
Pride is sin but I will say yours is a bit tarnished for the lack of fore-thought. The OP is not about the AK 47 and the ammo we fired came straight out of the Ammo Dump. If I shoot you with an AK 47 and the shoot you with a .308, which one will kill you?

 

Same comments as to glazer. It is just like reading the Bible, context, context, context. I am not a member of the NRA and this string is not about ammo, it's about using your brain in a logical fashion. And so we have two great examples of what Jesus would never do. Attacking the messenger never changes the message.

 

Not nasty, just on point. Their posts have no more to do with the issue than yurs does. Having taught the scriptures for the past 21+ years I, fully, expect the lost to run off track. I, on the flip side, expect the saved, the followers of Jesus, to be Spirit led and God's mind does not wander nor does it seek to kill the messenger.

 

And that being, directly, on point, we are of one mind. We live in a troubling time, where the world is influencing the Christian and we tend, because of that trend, to jerk our knees and you are only guilty, in reality, of standing in the path of another's twitching knee but left go and, from previous experience, it complies and goes full swing into "Kill the messenger."

I believe I'm going to leave my position as moderator on anothor forum that was murdered by an Atheist the Admin would not allow me to ban. He used the kill the messenger tactic for so long on me and others until there are just six Christians left there and the Catholic Deacon Administrator still willo not dismiss him. There were three Catholics, I know of and about 20 Protestants but the board has just died now and there can be exchange of Bible truth just because of the "Kill The Messenger" tactic I was so fluent in before I was saved.

Knowing we are of like mind and being a hard headed teacher all I can ask is don't fall into the traps seeping into the Christian World. And may my Father always pour uncontainable blessings out on you and yours.

 

glazer,
You did not reade the OP to understand the context and you have, again, ignored the context of the last message you quoted. I am here for neither your, nor my, pride! And your post, demonstrating your superior knowledge with a rebuke of my ignorance was followed, as is too oft the case, by a little watering that has, since, been withdrawn, that was about to be a dog pack seeking the kill.

You did not comment on the context of the message about and centered on common sense but, rather, chided me for being so stupid (Kill the messenger). I'll go back and reread your post to make sure I'm not crossing posts on different forums and if I'm doing that, I'll apollogise.

 

No, there is that first line, "Just so you know."

 

And if I remember correctly, you are going to be furious with me a second time because I am here to help and fighting with you, glazer or somebody else will help noone, so this will be a short exchange, ending, on my part, with this post to you.

You, ignoring context, accuse me of the same crime and then, putting words, unuttered, into my posts, accuse me of telling somebody they are lost in this string... that is not only not true, it's a fabircated tell, a.k.a. a lie.

Now, you, I have no doubt been teaching something about twenty-four years longer than I have taught the scriptures, there are many millions of teachers but not so many that teach the infallible scriptures as the Word of God. That being said, this is just another leg of the "Kill The Messenger" movement in this string, started with glazers posts.

Your really not on topic.

Without need for further comment and restraining the natural man's instincts to flail back, good day, sir.