1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Scofield Bible. Yay or Nay

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Gorship, May 30, 2013.

  1. Gorship

    Gorship Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    50
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Let me just pull out this can of worms.

    So Hi! Im new to the forums, and I figured this would be a great place to ask my question.


    What are your thoughts on the Scofield KJV reference Bible and notes.

    Personally, So far I really like it.

    1) my Bible is high quality so i kinda dont want to part with it, if its bad (lol)
    2) the only cristisms i have found are 3fold
    2i) Scofield was a sinner (who isnt/wasnt?)
    2ii) Scofield promoted Gap theory (This one bugged me, cause Im a huge creationist, however in his notes on genesis, he barely even touches the issue, he gives 3 definitions of what day could be, in the entirety of scripture and doesn't even say what that particular reference is, so I cant really get bothered by it. Maybe if I tried hard enough I could.)
    2iii) Dispensationalism : Again, don't have a problem with this.

    Is there something I am missing here? Should I be worried about anything with his notes or are a lot of people just really good at critiquing people.
     
  2. RLBosley

    RLBosley Active Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,752
    Likes Received:
    0
    I wouldn't buy one and if one was given to me I'd ask for a gift receipt. The dispensationalism in the notes would drive me insane. Why have a study Bible where you can't trust the notes?

    JMHO
     
  3. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    20,493
    Likes Received:
    3,043
    Faith:
    Baptist
    :thumbsup::applause::)

    SCOFIELD'S BASIC ERRORS (scroll down)

    Reveals the roots of many of the early dispie errors
     
  4. Gorship

    Gorship Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    50
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    I dont have any big beef with dispensation, maybe my notes were altered cause i dont see anything on gap theory. Ill just the Bible and spit out any bones I may find.
     
  5. Bluefalcon

    Bluefalcon Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2004
    Messages:
    957
    Likes Received:
    15
    ... beginning with a character assassination of Scofield.
     
  6. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Messages:
    19,715
    Likes Received:
    585
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Dispense with Dispensationalism.
     
  7. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Can get a MacArthur study bible, so can have calvinism and Dispy combined!
     
  8. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    For you, would rtry to get a copy of the 1967 edition, any of those available?
     
  9. Bob Alkire

    Bob Alkire New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2001
    Messages:
    3,134
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hard to find these days, but it is very good.
     
  10. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,742
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    My copy of the English Standard Version (ESV) is a Scofield Study System.
    Many of the notes appear to me to be fully consistent with the study notes of others, and so I do not see any reason to not use them. Since I am a progressive dispensationalist, my views differ with the traditional dispensationalism presented in the study notes.

    Bottom line, whether you agree or disagree with his notes, it gives you a basis for understanding one way of looking at scripture, thus may allow you to grow, whether in thinking through the same view or an alternate view. We are to know what we believe.
     
  11. HeLives4me

    HeLives4me New Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2005
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    5
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I have one for Sunday worship, (I think a Scof. III) I very much like the font size, very easy to read. And the cross references are excellent. The notes are OK, I keep a list in the back of the ones I disagree with, but overall it is a good bible, well made, good size.

    Edit, forgot to say it is a KJV, which is what our Pastor uses.
     
    #11 HeLives4me, Jun 1, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 1, 2013
    • Like Like x 1
  12. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    13,103
    Likes Received:
    5
    Where did you find a Scofield ESV? I couldn't find one.
     
  13. HeirofSalvation

    HeirofSalvation Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    Messages:
    2,838
    Likes Received:
    128
    I use and also like Scofields very much. Mainly, because there are excellent cross-references, and the cross-reference system is VERY easy to use. Vs. say, a Thompsom chain where you would have to go to the back to look up everything etc. <----I DO like Thompson's as well. Just not as user-friendly.

    That being said.....Yes, Scofield does believe in a Gap Theory, and as you look, you will find it in his notes. Pre-Adamic civilization ET. AL!!! So, yes it contains errors in the notes.

    However, no Study Bible is perfect and it is still one I like to use.

    Bought my wife the "King James Study Bible" and she likes that a LOT as well.

    As long as you don't make any of these two fundamental errors you will be good:

    1.) Accepting everything asserted in admittedly imperfect notes as perfect exegesis without self-study.
    2.) Obsessing over disparraging Scofield personally and wiping his Reference Bible off of the face of the Earth as though it contained more errors than a Quran.

    I've never seen an example of the first on B.B........I have seen a few examples of the second.
    Enjoy your Scofield!
     
  14. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    28,742
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Hi Amy G, Its an Oxford University Press, copyright 2006. I went to their website, searched it, and could not find it either. However, Scofield ESV are available, just google "Scofield Study Bible English Standard Version.
     
  15. HeirofSalvation

    HeirofSalvation Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    Messages:
    2,838
    Likes Received:
    128
    Hi Amy:

    Apparently, they come in NASB too :) don't know if you knew that. Saw Van's response and thought if you were interested, then your fav. version might be there as well. 'Course, it costs an arm and a leg.
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/0195279034/?tag=baptis04-20
     
  16. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Also they come in HCSB!
     
  17. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Where would you differ with 'traditional" Dispy?
     
  18. Gorship

    Gorship Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    50
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Wish i could get the bible without the notes but WITH the cross reference.
     
    #18 Gorship, Jun 5, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 5, 2013
  19. HeirofSalvation

    HeirofSalvation Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    Messages:
    2,838
    Likes Received:
    128
    I rather appreciate the notes a lot of times........but, some of them are indeed garbage. Like you, I like the cross-references a lot. I find the cross-reference system the best I have ever seen, and VERY relevant to topic usually. I suggest Scofield Bibles for that very reason. Best cross-refs I know of. (Course, I've only used a few study Bibles too....but I like Scofield's).
     
  20. Gorship

    Gorship Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    50
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Dont get me wrong, I do really enjoy it, and I haven't stumbled across any gap stuff really (Even the genesis 1 stuff was pretty vague... maybe my notes are different). However if I get into anything im confused on, I would probably just take it to my Pastor, or do some searchin'. My heart does leap a little when I listen to someone like David Gibbs, and he goes "turn to page 599" and i can do that! ahahaha.
     
Loading...