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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by makahiya117, Sep 10, 2013.

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  1. makahiya117

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    Really, do you think they were talking about the 1881 RV in 1776 ?
     
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    Luke 19:4 --
    And he ranne before, and climed vp into a sycomore tree to see him, for he was to passe that way. (AV1611)

    And he ran before, and clymed vp into a wylde fygge tree, to see hym: for he was to come that way. (Bishops')
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    Acts 27:13, 14 --
    And when the south wind blew softly, supposing that they had obtained their purpose, loosing thence, they sailed close by Crete.
    But not long after there arose against it a tempestuous wind, called Euroclydon. (KJV)

    And when the South winde blew softly, they supposing that they had obteined their purpose, loosed unto Asson, and sailed past Candie.
    But not long after, there arose against their purpose, a flaw of winde out of the Northeast, which is called Euroclydon. (hardcopy Bishops' 1602)     ​
    In these few examples, how can the very different and additional words found in the Bishops' text be said to be "no less perfect, pure, and true than the KJV" words? Is the sycamore tree more perfect or beautiful than the fig tree? Is leaving out the words "out of the Northeast" simply a polishing or magnification of an already perfect text?
     
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    So what, the RV, ASV, NASV and the NIV don't match.

    The issue is final canonization.

    The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority
    and final canonization (books and words). The dynamic Purified Text Theory
    supports the Record Theory, demonstrated categorically and conclusively
    in the manuscript evidence, bible canonization, bible doctrine,
    billions of bibles and computational linguistics.
     
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    Ronald Reagan was alive in 1776? I know he was old but MAN, not THAT old!
     
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    Neither does the Old Testament and the Septuagent.
     
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    The issue is final canonization, doctor annsni.

    Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?


    #1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe
    only the original manuscripts were given by inspiration of God.

    There are no original manuscripts.

    KJV But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty,
    not walking in craftiness,nor handling the word of God deceitfully;
    but by manifestation of the truth commendingourselves
    to every man's conscience in the sight of God.


    #2. You cannot honestly say "the bible" or "all bibles"
    are given by inspiration of God.

    There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Greek, Syrian,
    Latin, German, English, French, Spanish, etc. bibles
    which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.


    #3. You cannot honestly say "the Greek N.T." or "all N.T. Greek texts"
    are given by inspiration of God.

    There are over 24 reconstructed (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Greek N.T. texts
    which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.






    .
     
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    In Reagan's 1983 speech he certainly wasn't referencing the KJV alone.
     
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    I brought my Modern Language Bible with me to South Korea in 1998.
    Log can correct me on this,but I think the Geneva Bible and Bishop's Bible were more commonly used in early America.


    He updated a number of expressions in the KJV.

    No,that would be a dictionary.
     
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    Mak,please try to make an honest attempt at answering Franklin's questions.
     
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    Though I can't attest to the Bishop's Bible, I just don't know, I can say that the Geneva Bible was more used than the KJV 1611 in the earliest settlers. One of the primary reasons being that as they fled persecution and desired to establish a new land of religious liberty, the KJV was seen as a yoke of oppression.

    Though Anglican (read: Episcopal) churches would use the KJV, the Geneva Bible was, at least in the earliest days of the colonies highly resourced. :)
     
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    So, you quoted "Dr. Gail Riplinger" (is she really a Dr.?) as an expert or authority. No one is claiming the RV, ASV, BASV or NIV are perfect. She claimed the Bishops' was as perfect as the KJV, and since the two texts are quite different, that cannot be true.
     
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    What does this quote have to do with Scripture?
     
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    How does this quote have relate to the other quotes in the OP? He could have said this about many things. What was the context of this quote? This quote by itself has no meaning.
     
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    Dr. Jack Hyles build the largest church of his day
    and (First Baptist Church) baptized 5,030 on one single Sunday.

    Dr. Peter Ruckman is the world's most prolific KJV scholar of all time.

    Dr. Gail Riplinger published the world's most comprehensive computational linguistics research of bible canonization apologetics.


    KJV For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
    for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
     
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    This is surely pot stirring.
     
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    Why would this thread offend you ?

    KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved Bibles of all time.

    Hyles, Ruckman and Riplinger defend the KJV Holy Bibles.
     
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    I once heard Jack Hyles tell a student to close her Bible and listen to him during a message. Yes, close her Bible.

    Ruckman was a man who could not keep his vow to any if his wives. He is a heretic, a liar, and supports abortion.

    Riplinger is a liar who knowingly misrepresents other translations in her writings. She is allowed to teach men in churches who would allow no other woman to teach from their pulpits.

    I know many good, godly brethren who use only e KJV. I love these men. The unholy triumvirate presented here are not typical of the majority of KJVO folks I know.

    They do the greatest harm to the KJVO movement.
     
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    Hyles, Ruckman, Riplinger are not KJV Only, nor Original Only, neither am I.
    We believe all scripture is given my inspiration of God.

    You do not understand the Purified Text Theory or the Record Theory.
    The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority
    and final canonization (books and words). The dynamic Purified Text Theory
    supports the Record Theory, demonstrated categorically and conclusively
    in the manuscript evidence, bible canonization, bible doctrine,
    billions of bibles and computational linguistics.
     
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    In this new book Dr. Riplinger ingeniously, with both text and graphics, illustrates many examples of the precise and metrical combination of syllables and words in the King James Bible into poetic orders which naturally capture and hold our attention and are sublime in character. She has shown with many previously unreported quotes exactly what Wycliffe, Tyndale, and Coverdale believed about the vernacular nature and inspiration of the Bible. There is a complete recounting of the true thought of Erasmus, his feelings about vernacular Bibles, and his attitude toward the Roman Church. The breadth of information supplied is truly remarkable, and we are greatly indebted to her for her work.


    James H. Sightler, M.D.
    Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
    American Board of Pediatrics
     
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    We can't understand something you've made up because there is no actual, respectable documentation other than your idiosyncratic posts here and on Christian dating forums.

    Likewise, having a pediatrician endorse a book on pseudo-biblical scholarship is akin to having a theologian endorse a book on digging oil wells. The endorsement might look nice but there is no authority or expertise behind the endorsement. It is a meaningless endorsement.
     
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